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BristolUK Oct 14th 2013 12:36 am

Piers Morgan on guns
 
Opinions of Piers Morgan aside, I thought this was a really good read.

montreal mike Oct 14th 2013 12:44 am

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I read the first para on your liink

did not need to go further

i have watched piers and he is 100% bang on

but his fight is futile

americans are obsessed with guns

they have been since the 1800's, sherrifs, stagecoaches, wild wild west, and all that good stuff

i has a chance to go down and settle there in 1978

i didn't

Jingsamichty Oct 14th 2013 1:33 am

Re: Piers Morgan on guns
 
He's very modest, isn't he?

He's too humble to tell us himself that he's brave, so luckily there are famous celebrities around to tell him, otherwise he'd never know, or be able to tell us in his book!

Shard Oct 14th 2013 1:58 am

Re: Piers Morgan on guns
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 10943579)
but his fight is futile

americans are obsessed with guns

they have been since the 1800's, sherrifs, stagecoaches, wild wild west, and all that good stuff

I don't think the fight is futile. They hung on to their slaves for a very long time, and now that's changed.

Probably what they need is an outsider, like Piers, that can build momentum for a change. In the video clip he made a quip that guns in America are like religion, and there are some definite parallels. Now that the US's relative power as a superpower is declining (China, globalisation, etc) some of the great American myths are starting to unwind. Guns can be one of them, but admittedly it will take decades. And the end result will be more like Canada than Britain.


http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...oting-straight

Simon Legree Oct 14th 2013 2:08 am

Re: Piers Morgan on guns
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 10943636)
He's very modest, isn't he?

He's too humble to tell us himself that he's brave, so luckily there are famous celebrities around to tell him, otherwise he'd never know, or be able to tell us in his book!

Does he mention anywhere that he is totally discredited in the UK for some of his journalistic antics ?

Monique_in_Canada Oct 14th 2013 2:24 am

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Crimwatch is on tonight (in the UK) its about Luton and Gun Crime, it'll be very interesting to watch!!

BenBuzz Oct 14th 2013 2:42 am

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I've watched a number of Piers Morgan's debates with pro-gun lobbyists, the NRA etc. on YouTube. He calls them 'fair debates' - Piers usually sits there with stacks of paper with data, figures and statistics and then persists in continually bombarding the pro-gun speaker with individual stats that no-one has a hope in hell of knowing or remembering. Some debate...

At the subsequent 'debate', the pro-gun speaker got around Piers' debating technique by simply not letting Piers say anything, and attempting the make a mockery of Piers' accent, etc. Neither came out with the better argument to be honest.

Shard Oct 14th 2013 2:53 am

Re: Piers Morgan on guns
 

Originally Posted by BenBuzz (Post 10943709)
I've watched a number of Piers Morgan's debates with pro-gun lobbyists, the NRA etc. on YouTube. He calls them 'fair debates' - Piers usually sits there with stacks of paper with data, figures and statistics and then persists in continually bombarding the pro-gun speaker with individual stats that no-one has a hope in hell of knowing or remembering. Some debate...

At the subsequent 'debate', the pro-gun speaker got around Piers' debating technique by simply not letting Piers say anything, and attempting the make a mockery of Piers' accent, etc. Neither came out with the better argument to be honest.

The statistic that is quite memorable is 30 gun deaths a year in Britain, 12,000 a year in the USA. If he repeats that enough times, the yanks might start to think about it.

Sally Redux Oct 14th 2013 2:57 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10943733)
The statistic that is quite memorable is 30 gun deaths a year in Britain, 12,000 a year in the USA. If he repeats that enough times, the yanks might start to think about it.

They think it is 'freedom', like having crap healthcare.

Simon Legree Oct 14th 2013 3:35 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10943733)
The statistic that is quite memorable is 30 gun deaths a year in Britain, 12,000 a year in the USA. If he repeats that enough times, the yanks might start to think about it.

I wouldn't hold your breath on that one ! The gun nuts, and there are too many of them, including the NRA and such like, will never allow common sense to prevail !

BristolUK Oct 14th 2013 5:51 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 10943636)
He's very modest, isn't he?


Originally Posted by Simon Legree (Post 10943668)
Does he mention anywhere that he is totally discredited in the UK for some of his journalistic antics ?

He does mention the petition to have him deported from the USA and the counter petition saying nobody in the UK wanted him back.

I thought that was nicely self deprecating as were his comments about wanting to punch the idiot and how that was unwise.

Oink Oct 14th 2013 6:19 am

Re: Piers Morgan on guns
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 10943636)
He's very modest, isn't he?

He's too humble to tell us himself that he's brave, so luckily there are famous celebrities around to tell him, otherwise he'd never know, or be able to tell us in his book!

I'm really glad he found his voice that night, I was getting a bit worried.

scootb Oct 14th 2013 10:17 am

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Firearms are not evil,they are simply tools,its the retards that turn them on other people that give them a bad name.

There are plenty of us that own firearms that have NEVER considered turning firearms on other people.

Sick of all these anti's trying to peg firearms as evil instruments of death,cars kill more people than firearms,do you see a mass of twats trying to ban cars?

Shard Oct 14th 2013 10:25 am

Re: Piers Morgan on guns
 

Originally Posted by scootb (Post 10944275)
Firearms are not evil,they are simply tools,its the retards that turn them on other people that give them a bad name.

There are plenty of us that own firearms that have NEVER considered turning firearms on other people.

Sick of all these anti's trying to peg firearms as evil instruments of death,cars kill more people than firearms,do you see a mass of twats trying to ban cars?

So how do you propose keeping these tools out of the hands of violent and psychotic people? Particularly those who have no history of wrongdoing.

Almost Canadian Oct 14th 2013 10:30 am

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Originally Posted by scootb (Post 10944275)
Firearms are not evil,they are simply tools,its the retards that turn them on other people that give them a bad name.

There are plenty of us that own firearms that have NEVER considered turning firearms on other people.

Sick of all these anti's trying to peg firearms as evil instruments of death,cars kill more people than firearms,do you see a mass of twats trying to ban cars?

Why does a civilian require a multi shot automatic weapon?

In Canada, a magazine of 5 is the maximum permitted. What is wrong with that?


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