Pierre Poilievre
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
It'll be interesting to see what happens in the QC election tomorrow. There are currently no Conservative provincial MPs. There might be on Tuesday morning.
I've noticed that the ruling CAQ, which will win, has lurched further to the right recently. Perhaps trying to cosy-up to potential Conservative voters?
It always amuses me when I hear the CAQ being discussed or talking about themselves. It's a hard "Q". They clearly don't speak Brit. Or, indeed, Greek, otherwise they'd know what a kakistocracy is.
I've noticed that the ruling CAQ, which will win, has lurched further to the right recently. Perhaps trying to cosy-up to potential Conservative voters?
It always amuses me when I hear the CAQ being discussed or talking about themselves. It's a hard "Q". They clearly don't speak Brit. Or, indeed, Greek, otherwise they'd know what a kakistocracy is.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
It'll be interesting to see what happens in the QC election tomorrow. There are currently no Conservative provincial MPs. There might be on Tuesday morning.
I've noticed that the ruling CAQ, which will win, has lurched further to the right recently. Perhaps trying to cosy-up to potential Conservative voters?
It always amuses me when I hear the CAQ being discussed or talking about themselves. It's a hard "Q". They clearly don't speak Brit. Or, indeed, Greek, otherwise they'd know what a kakistocracy is.
I've noticed that the ruling CAQ, which will win, has lurched further to the right recently. Perhaps trying to cosy-up to potential Conservative voters?
It always amuses me when I hear the CAQ being discussed or talking about themselves. It's a hard "Q". They clearly don't speak Brit. Or, indeed, Greek, otherwise they'd know what a kakistocracy is.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
What utter tosh? I don't know that much about him yet but, apart from the Bitcoin thing, he seems to have a fairly reasoned position on most things. Certainly Trudeau and Freeland appeared to have some difficulty answering his questions.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
When did he state that he is anti-vaccine? IIRC, his argument went along the lines of "...these people have been going across the border, keeping supply chains going, since the start of this thing. They spend most of the time in their cabs so why, all of a sudden, does the fact that some of them do not have a vaccine suddenly result in them being such a menace to society that you wish to take their way to make a living away...?"
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
When did he state that he is anti-vaccine? IIRC, his argument went along the lines of "...these people have been going across the border, keeping supply chains going, since the start of this thing. They spend most of the time in their cabs so why, all of a sudden, does the fact that some of them do not have a vaccine suddenly result in them being such a menace to society that you wish to take their way to make a living away...?"
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
Didn'6 he have a whining fit recently because, after he chose to align with the truck parade thugs, they threatened his wife? Lie down with dogs and all that.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
PP is just what the CPC needs, bright, articulate, combative and conservative, unlike liberal-light O'Toole and the shrinking violet Scheer.. Of course, the bought and paid for liberal press are in full smear and innuendo mode, panicked by his polling popularity. He has my vote and I think he'd make a good PM, but then I'm pro bodily autonomy and anti vaccine mandates, something that seems to draw the sneers of some commentators here.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
PP is just what the CPC needs, bright, articulate, combative and conservative, unlike liberal-light O'Toole and the shrinking violet Scheer.. Of course, the bought and paid for liberal press are in full smear and innuendo mode, panicked by his polling popularity. He has my vote and I think he'd make a good PM, but then I'm pro bodily autonomy and anti vaccine mandates, something that seems to draw the sneers of some commentators here.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
Not many examples of his "utter tosh" being laid out on here. Certainly not enough to conclude "**** him".
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
It's a little more nuanced than that. If the vaccines had worked as well as, let's say, the polio or smallpox, then there would be merit in the argument that not getting one left one open to ridicule.
The various C-19 vaccines are not in the same ball park and, the longer they have been used, the more merit there is in the argument that there were nowhere near as effective as they were touted to be and that, as eminent virologists had suggested, there were other ways to have dealt with it.
The various C-19 vaccines are not in the same ball park and, the longer they have been used, the more merit there is in the argument that there were nowhere near as effective as they were touted to be and that, as eminent virologists had suggested, there were other ways to have dealt with it.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
It's a little more nuanced than that. If the vaccines had worked as well as, let's say, the polio or smallpox, then there would be merit in the argument that not getting one left one open to ridicule.
The various C-19 vaccines are not in the same ball park and, the longer they have been used, the more merit there is in the argument that there were nowhere near as effective as they were touted to be and that, as eminent virologists had suggested, there were other ways to have dealt with it.
The various C-19 vaccines are not in the same ball park and, the longer they have been used, the more merit there is in the argument that there were nowhere near as effective as they were touted to be and that, as eminent virologists had suggested, there were other ways to have dealt with it.
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Re: Pierre Poilievre
That many of us are around to argue the fine points of vaccine efficacy is largely due to those vaccines. I agree it's nuanced though, that's why I find the term "pro bodily autonomy" misleading. It's kind of like the term "pro life" technically true, but insidious in nature.
The pro-life argument is a whole other kettle of fish. I doubt that many would argue that a termination to save the life of a mother is bad thing.
However, once again, the situation is a little more nuanced when arguing that "my body, my choice" is the be all and end all. Would you agree that abortion is an acceptable form of contraception? If the mother can choose to terminate against the father's wishes, should it not also be the case that, if the mother decides to give birth against the father's wishes, should the father have to pay for child support?