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Shard Jun 28th 2022 11:33 am

Pierre Poilievre
 
Watched some of his YouTubes. Quite the populist with a some Canadian economic austerity lined up if he wins.

Thoughts?

CanadaJimmy Jun 28th 2022 12:56 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13125461)
Watched some of his YouTubes. Quite the populist with a some Canadian economic austerity lined up if he wins.

Thoughts?

I think he's good at what he does, but only because the opposition is just so incredibly weak. Trudeau seems nothing like what he was in 2015, his youthful energy is gone, and is now just transparently working for the benefit of large corporations at this point. Jagmeet Singh spends his time virtue signaling with woke Marxist politics that don't do anything to improve the average person's quality of life. It's no wonder average working class people gravitate to someone like Pierre Poilievre.

Shard Jun 28th 2022 8:06 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 13125470)
I think he's good at what he does, but only because the opposition is just so incredibly weak. Trudeau seems nothing like what he was in 2015, his youthful energy is gone, and is now just transparently working for the benefit of large corporations at this point. Jagmeet Singh spends his time virtue signaling with woke Marxist politics that don't do anything to improve the average person's quality of life. It's no wonder average working class people gravitate to someone like Pierre Poilievre.

He does seem energetic and very good at communicating.

Partially discharged Jun 29th 2022 12:21 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13125512)
He does seem energetic and very good at communicating.

He cherry picks information and for someone who rails against government intervention in our lives and the increasing presence of 'gatekeepers' in our lives acting as jobsworths and interferences in our lives it is interesting that he has never worked outside the world of government.

Agree with the analysis of Justin and Jagmeet from earlier postings.

dbd33 Jun 29th 2022 12:28 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 
I suppose it will come as no surprise to anyone that I view Poilievre as a menace to society and I applaud the people who trek to Mill Street in Manotick to picket his house. I hope they take large lorries and honk big horns at him.

Shard Jun 29th 2022 8:41 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 
I quite like his energy and commitment to change, but when I hear his policies I keep thinking, this might not end well. He does seem to have a Trumpian sense of how to lay out his arguments. The "gatekeepers" trope will resonate with many, and linking Justin to inflation gives him some verbal ammunition. A Canadian Boris?

dbd33 Jun 30th 2022 12:00 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13125884)
I quite like his energy and commitment to change, but when I hear his policies I keep thinking, this might not end well. He does seem to have a Trumpian sense of how to lay out his arguments. The "gatekeepers" trope will resonate with many, and linking Justin to inflation gives him some verbal ammunition. A Canadian Boris?

Not sure which one you suggest is the Canadian Boris. I don't think Canadian politicians go in for the office BoJo and none of them suffer from Daniella Westbrook nose.

Poilievre is just another far right populist. Think Steven Yaxley-Lennon.

CanadaJimmy Jun 30th 2022 4:11 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13125832)
I suppose it will come as no surprise to anyone that I view Poilievre as a menace to society

I enjoy his content, but ultimately I do agree. Unfortunately the response from the other side is just "he's bad" and it doesn't feel like any effort being made to actually compete with him on his level. The Liberals response to the housing crisis for example has just felt bureaucratic and hollow. I hope he continues squeezing the Liberals and NDP to do better, and if they fail to do so they have only themselves to blame if he becomes the next prime minister in my opinion.

Partially discharged Jun 30th 2022 9:04 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13125832)
I suppose it will come as no surprise to anyone that I view Poilievre as a menace to society and I applaud the people who trek to Mill Street in Manotick to picket his house. I hope they take large lorries and honk big horns at him.



Pierre is one of the 'folks'.

dbd33 Jun 30th 2022 9:50 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 13126095)

His marching through residential neighbourhoods with the honking yobs is what makes picketing his house acceptable.

dbd33 Jun 30th 2022 9:55 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 13126039)
I enjoy his content, but ultimately I do agree. Unfortunately the response from the other side is just "he's bad" and it doesn't feel like any effort being made to actually compete with him on his level.

Centerist parties always follow Michelle Obama's dictum and go high. That means they succeed only where there's an educated electorate aware of the populist danger. I think there's a middle ground between sinking to his level, for example, rousing a mob of Marxists to smash the means of production, and sitting back meekly. Put honking trucks outside his house at 3am and let the other residents sort him out.

Partially discharged Jun 30th 2022 1:34 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13126102)
His marching through residential neighbourhoods with the honking yobs is what makes picketing his house acceptable.

I'm a 20 minute drive or so away from the 'Tick' where you say the anti gatekeeper lives.

Shard Jun 30th 2022 8:30 pm

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 13126095)

Seems quite a blunder to align himself with the mob.

bats Jul 1st 2022 4:30 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13126180)
Seems quite a blunder to align himself with the mob.

not really, those yobs vote

Bleepedy Bloops Oct 2nd 2022 10:10 am

Re: Pierre Poilievre
 
He makes a good opposition leader but would never vote for a party who's leader proudly aligned himself with anti-vaxxers (or more politely, the anti-vax mandates people).


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