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colchar Dec 20th 2013 5:19 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 
Suspending him was a financial decision by the network because they didn't want pressure put on advertisers who then might pull their ads from the show and thus cost the network money.

But that pressure goes both ways as was demonstrated when Christian groups decided that they didn't like the show GCB (otherwise known as Good Christian B**ches) and put immense pressure on advertisers to pull their ads from the show. Instead of just not watching something they didn't like they decided that nobody else should be allowed to watch it either. But now that the shoe is on the other foot it is somehow an attack on free speech? Hypocrisy at its best.

colchar Dec 20th 2013 5:22 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11046085)
I've never paid much attention to this before but I'm curious is to why there a tv programme about a family of tramps? Is it some sort of postmodern ironic voyeurism for the student/clubbing crowd?


I've never watched the show as I dislike all so called 'reality TV' but they are not tramps. They have had a family business for years which makes and distributes various hunting products (duck calls, etc.) and they were multimillionaires before they ever appeared on the show.

dbd33 Dec 20th 2013 5:27 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by colchar (Post 11046374)
I've never watched the show as I dislike all so called 'reality TV' but they are not tramps. They have had a family business for years which makes and distributes various hunting products (duck calls, etc.) and they were multimillionaires before they ever appeared on the show.

Thank you for that. When I opened the thread I was wondering "rugby? ice hockey? golliwog?"

jossie Dec 20th 2013 6:28 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 
Awesome TV show - political correctness gone mad! I don't share the same opinion as him but it doesn't bother me that they are his views.

dbd33 Dec 20th 2013 6:58 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 
Scalia Calls “Duck Dynasty” Decision Unconstitutional


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...tcid=obnetwork

Alan2005 Dec 20th 2013 7:02 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11046475)
Scalia Calls “Duck Dynasty” Decision Unconstitutional


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...tcid=obnetwork

It's a slippery slope don't you know

“If Phil Robertson can be muzzled for expressing this perfectly legitimate view, what’s to prevent the same thing from happening to, say, a Justice of the Supreme Court?”

colchar Dec 20th 2013 8:08 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11046482)
It's a slippery slope don't you know


Except that he is not being stopped from expressing his views. He is free to express them and A&E are free to fire him. But even after being fired he can still express those views.

And this little clip shows just what those views are:

http://www.heavy.com/entertainment/2...eo-homophobia/

Oink Dec 20th 2013 8:11 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by colchar (Post 11046564)
Except that he is not being stopped from expressing his views. He is free to express them and A&E are free to fire him. But even after being fired he can still express those views.

And this little clip shows just what those views are:

http://www.heavy.com/entertainment/2...eo-homophobia/

I think the NYer article was tongue-in-cheek.

colchar Dec 20th 2013 9:17 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11046567)
I think the NYer article was tongue-in-cheek.


I didn't read it...having an issue with links at the moment (downloaded an ad-on for my browser and things have been weird since I did).

JGK Dec 20th 2013 9:48 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by cjones (Post 11045789)
I've no idea who this bloke is or what he stands for, but apparently Sarah Palin (remember her) has jumped to his defense; so, based on this fact alone I believe it's safe to assume he's a twat.

http://arts.nationalpost.com/2013/12...ay-statements/

So much this :goodpost:

caretaker Dec 20th 2013 10:22 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11046567)
I think the NYer article was tongue-in-cheek.

You mean the part at the bottom where it says 'Get all the fake news delivered to your inbox by The Borowitz Report':D

Oink Dec 20th 2013 10:25 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11046664)
You mean the part at the bottom where it says 'Get all the fake news delivered to your inbox by The Borowitz Report':D

:rofl:

MillieF Dec 20th 2013 2:02 pm

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 
But surely this is the problem with this type of tripe? It's a N. American version of My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding...terrible lowest denominator rubbish, but fine viewed from the back of a cushion....then some sad group of souls start to identify with 'em, and they are suddenly 'heros' and we have to live with their ghastly homespun ramblings.

Almost Canadian Dec 21st 2013 1:08 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 11046851)
But surely this is the problem with this type of tripe? It's a N. American version of My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding...terrible lowest denominator rubbish, but fine viewed from the back of a cushion....then some sad group of souls start to identify with 'em, and they are suddenly 'heros' and we have to live with their ghastly homespun ramblings.

I take it that you have never watched it. The comments being discussed were not stated during the show.

MillieF Dec 21st 2013 9:33 am

Re: Phil Robertson suspended
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11047206)
I take it that you have never watched it. The comments being discussed were not stated during the show.

No, I did know the views wern't on the show, because I saw all the furore about it in the news and then looked it up. However, had the man not been on the show, nobody would have asked him for his views or been in the slightest bit interested.


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