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scrubbedexpat091 Jul 26th 2015 10:10 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by plasticcanuck (Post 11708797)
I'm sorry but your post doesn't make much sense to me. Why would they call for an ambulance for someone already deceased. Surely an undertaker would have been more appropriate. And where were the police in this situation? Wouldn't such a sudden death have precipitated action by them such as calling in a coroner and arrangement of a postmortem?

Makes total sense, most if not everyone when they encounter an unconscious person would call 9-11 from instinct who would almost certainly send paramedics along with police.

sharkus Jul 27th 2015 7:31 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly (Post 11708121)
I am completely guessing, but I think part of the ambulance fee is to deter people from calling the ambulance for every little thing, when an ambulance may not otherwise be needed. If it were fully covered, I can see people calling for literally anything. "I have a hangnail, send an ambulance!"

Schnooks, oh I can understand the reason from the deterrence aspect, however, there should be slightly better guidelines around when the fee is applied. For example, if some idiot does call EMS out for a hangnail, they are charged the full fee. When you find your child having a seizure in the middle of the night, and, as to be expected, you're somewhat freaking out, perhaps a charge is unwarranted. I think the term would probably be "if medically necessary".

I do recall some mention of them thinking about introducing a fee in the UK, for exactly the type of situation you mention. I also think stupid calls to 999 / 911 should be subject to a charge as well.


Originally Posted by plasticcanuck (Post 11708797)
I'm sorry but your post doesn't make much sense to me. Why would they call for an ambulance for someone already deceased. Surely an undertaker would have been more appropriate. And where were the police in this situation? Wouldn't such a sudden death have precipitated action by them such as calling in a coroner and arrangement of a postmortem?

Well, let us hope you don't find yourself in the position of being on the floor unable to respond to someone and people assume you're dead and then pop you in a bodybag, or perhaps just decide to totally cut out the middleman, dig a hole and throw you in it.

As others have said, if you find someone unresponsive, then it's always best to call in the professionals (no, not Bodie and Doyle - they would just drive Cortina through your font room :D ) and let them do their thing.

HGerchikov Jul 27th 2015 7:34 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 11709500)
Schnooks, oh I can understand the reason from the deterrence aspect, however, there should be slightly better guidelines around when the fee is applied. For example, if some idiot does call EMS out for a hangnail, they are charged the full fee. When you find your child having a seizure in the middle of the night, and, as to be expected, you're somewhat freaking out, perhaps a charge is unwarranted. I think the term would probably be "if medically necessary".

I do recall some mention of them thinking about introducing a fee in the UK, for exactly the type of situation you mention. I also think stupid calls to 999 / 911 should be subject to a charge as well.



Well, let us hope you don't find yourself in the position of being on the floor unable to respond to someone and people assume you're dead and then pop you in a bodybag, or perhaps just decide to totally cut out the middleman, dig a hole and throw you in it.

As others have said, if you find someone unresponsive, then it's always best to call in the professionals (no, not Bodie and Doyle - they would just drive Cortina through your font room :D ) and let them do their thing.

Bodie and Doyle drove Capris. The Sweeney had Cortinas.

rivingtonpike Jul 27th 2015 8:05 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by HGerchikov (Post 11709502)
Bodie and Doyle drove Capris. The Sweeney had Cortinas.

Bodie drove a capir, Ray Doyle drove an Escort RS type thing (silver I recall)

HGerchikov Jul 27th 2015 8:39 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11709515)
Bodie drove a capir, Ray Doyle drove an Escort RS type thing (silver I recall)

I think it might have been white - its a little embarrassing that we know this.

neilg14 Jul 27th 2015 9:15 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by HGerchikov (Post 11709502)
Bodie and Doyle drove Capris. The Sweeney had Cortinas.

Regan had a mk1 Granada, Carter had a Cortina.

HGerchikov Jul 27th 2015 9:36 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by neilg14 (Post 11709563)
Regan had a mk1 Granada, Carter had a Cortina.

The Sweeney was a little before my time, so I shall bow to your greater knowledge:)

BristolUK Jul 27th 2015 9:55 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by HGerchikov (Post 11709538)
I think it might have been white - its a little embarrassing that we know this.

That Mr 'udson was a man of many talents. :rofl:

scrubbedexpat091 Jul 27th 2015 12:35 pm

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 11709500)
Schnooks, oh I can understand the reason from the deterrence aspect, however, there should be slightly better guidelines around when the fee is applied. For example, if some idiot does call EMS out for a hangnail, they are charged the full fee. When you find your child having a seizure in the middle of the night, and, as to be expected, you're somewhat freaking out, perhaps a charge is unwarranted. I think the term would probably be "if medically necessary".

I do recall some mention of them thinking about introducing a fee in the UK, for exactly the type of situation you mention. I also think stupid calls to 999 / 911 should be subject to a charge as well.



Well, let us hope you don't find yourself in the position of being on the floor unable to respond to someone and people assume you're dead and then pop you in a bodybag, or perhaps just decide to totally cut out the middleman, dig a hole and throw you in it.

As others have said, if you find someone unresponsive, then it's always best to call in the professionals (no, not Bodie and Doyle - they would just drive Cortina through your font room :D ) and let them do their thing.

The charges are simply a result of ambulance services not being an insured service under the Canada Health Act and so the provinces don't want to fund the full cost from taxes so we end up with the fees which vary a lot across the country depending on how much of the cost the province subsidizes.

BC says they subsidize around 90% of the actual cost which is how they got the $80 fee which is very reasonable.

I'd venture if the provinces could, we would be paying co-pays at the doctor and hospitals as well, and I think we eventually will, or monthly premiums will become more common and higher, we already have monthly premiums in BC for most people, only those making under 30,000 get a subsidized rate.

rivingtonpike Jul 28th 2015 11:07 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 
Just come back from a long weekend in Vancouver. I personally have no idea how or why it gets onto the "Top cities in the world to live" list. I thought it was dirty, flat, roads were a joke, parking was, indeed, extortionate! I know Richmond is strictly speaking a separate city, but that seemed a dump to me too. Downtown was OK, but nothing out of the ordinary. So you can see some hills in the distance - big deal. There's lots of hills in Canada - famous for them. I know the island is considered a bit dull by some, but we couldn't get on the ferry fast enough! Victoria has pretty much everything we need on a general living front.

We did enjoy the $1 breakfast at IKEA though. That was great. You can keep the rest.

scrubbedexpat091 Jul 28th 2015 11:24 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11710609)
Just come back from a long weekend in Vancouver. I personally have no idea how or why it gets onto the "Top cities in the world to live" list. I thought it was dirty, flat, roads were a joke, parking was, indeed, extortionate! I know Richmond is strictly speaking a separate city, but that seemed a dump to me too. Downtown was OK, but nothing out of the ordinary. So you can see some hills in the distance - big deal. There's lots of hills in Canada - famous for them. I know the island is considered a bit dull by some, but we couldn't get on the ferry fast enough! Victoria has pretty much everything we need on a general living front.

We did enjoy the $1 breakfast at IKEA though. That was great. You can keep the rest.

I am still mystified about Vancouver and how it ranks so well. The congestion, inability to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time, is enough, and I can think of several city's in North America off the top of my head that are nicer, but suppose we all see city's differently, but boggles my mind when Vancouver ranks high, I just don't see why.

Took us last week over 45 minutes to go 15km's, that long for that short a distance is insane, so much gas wasted in traffic, and that just adds more pollution, amazed how much gas we use when in Vancouver vs when we were in Seattle, there might be traffic at rush hour there on the highway, but not like Vancouver region where there is traffic pretty much all day everyday.

Tomorrow wife is going to drop me off, and go back to West Vancouver where we can park free, I am at my appointment for 2 to 2 1/2 hours so makes more sense to do that then to pay for parking.

I have to do these appointments every week for 26 weeks, so paying up to 20 dollars a week for that long is too much of a hardship financially.

Shirtback Jul 28th 2015 12:23 pm

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 11707427)
I don't mean to pick on you, Juggernaut, as others on this thread have said more or less the same thing, but this is nonsense.

Suppose the hospitals did what various supermarkets have been doing for years. You park, you take your ticket with you into the hospital, and you get it validated (or exchanged for a token, or whatever) at a reception or customer services desk on your way out. That then entitles you to exit the car park without paying; meanwhile those who don't have a legitimate reason to be in the hospital can't get their ticket validated and have to pay significant fees to raise the exit barrier. .

This is more or less how the system works at my local & regional hospitals. If one is Next of Kin, or a parent of a child admitted.

Ambulance fees? : the (very occasional) times I've had to deal with 'em, I couldn't have cared less. I'd have paid 10+++ times the fee, in the circumstances. The last (touch wood) time I had to call one, the bill was around 130$. IIRC, it was waived anyway given the extremely rural setting of the incident in question.

caretaker Jul 28th 2015 12:31 pm

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11710609)
We did enjoy the $1 breakfast at IKEA though. That was great.

Did you have to assemble it?

BristolUK Jul 28th 2015 1:04 pm

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11710637)
Did you have to assemble it?

Never mind assemble it, could he pronounce or spell it?

dbd33 Jul 29th 2015 2:21 am

Re: Parking in Vancouver is insane
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11710609)
We did enjoy the $1 breakfast at IKEA though. That was great. You can keep the rest.

I don't think that's in Vancouver. Just this week someone in Vancouver, who was sipping a kombucha and explaining how affluent the city is, told me "you'd have to go to the suburbs, maybe to IKEA, before you'd see an off brand stroller".


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