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Old Jun 8th 2018, 1:23 pm
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

Originally Posted by Oakvillian View Post
Weirdly, one of the more likely benefits of a Ford government will actually be liberalization: somewhere along the way he made noises about dismantling the stranglehold the LCBO has on alcohol distribution, which would lead to greater access to booze at keener prices. Of course, this is extremely unlikely to happen once he realizes how much the LCBO contributes to government coffers.

I think there's been a recent change in the beer distribution rules. Loblaws used to carry only craft beer but now has swill too. I saw some cans of Coors and thought they looked the right size for my chicken so I picked up a six pack. They couldn't actually sell me the beer, "it's not in our system" but was there on display; Coors, Bud, I didn't see PBR but suppose it's there somewhere.
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Old Jun 8th 2018, 1:33 pm
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

These days, does anyone expect any politician to actually do what they campaigned on? I accept that the media sometimes does, and makes noise about it, but don't voters simply vote for whatever leader they like best, irrespective of why they like her/him?

Look at Trump. He is pretty much doing everything he campaigned on, yet the media kill him for doing so. Meanwhile MPs in the UK appear hell bent on trying to prevent Brexit actually happening, Trudeau runs deficits far larger than he campaigned on and has done little that he actually campaigned on, all with little comment from the media.
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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These days, does anyone expect any politician to actually do what they campaigned on? I accept that the media sometimes does, and makes noise about it, but don't voters simply vote for whatever leader they like best, irrespective of why they like her/him?

Look at Trump. He is pretty much doing everything he campaigned on, yet the media kill him for doing so. Meanwhile MPs in the UK appear hell bent on trying to prevent Brexit actually happening, Trudeau runs deficits far larger than he campaigned on and has done little that he actually campaigned on, all with little comment from the media.
My expectations of politicians are exceedingly low, and yet they still always manage to disappoint. What is more disappointing is that the electorate never seem to think through the consequences of the obvious glaring inconsistencies in the platforms offered and those that do have no influence to make the politicians front up and explain how they intend to achieve their goals, so we end up lurching from one extreme to another.
Honestly, it seems to me that the vast majority of the voting population are idiots so ultimately we get the governments we deserve.

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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

Originally Posted by iaink View Post
How do I feel? Lets just say I'm selling up and leaving the country.
To the US...out of the frying pan into the fire.
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Old Jun 8th 2018, 1:51 pm
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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To the US...out of the frying pan into the fire.
And its damned hot for sure.
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Old Jun 8th 2018, 1:55 pm
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

Nothing will change quickly; not much will change at all.

Hold tight, Iain. And come on back to BE - we need some new/old blood to inject life here after the recent "upgrade"
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

If anything I'm "meh" about it really. I'm lazy and wasn't going to vote, but did actually get of my arse and do so, simply so I can have a good old moan. I'm a bit funny about moaners who didn't bother to vote. If you decline your ballot thats fine, you at least did the "none of the above" thing. More annoyed with it these days due to US friends moaning about their lot when they had every chance to vote, and yet didn't bother for the same old tired excuses.

We shall see what comes of it all, good or bad.

Locally, I did see the incumbent for my old riding (didn't even know I was in a different riding until I checked the other day) get trounced by the PC candidate. Bit of a shock as I think they'd been elected since 2003. Not sure why the change, people bored of the Libs maybe?
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

Where's Magnum? Not back in from celebrating?
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Old Jun 8th 2018, 2:22 pm
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

Originally Posted by dbd33 View Post
I think there's been a recent change in the beer distribution rules. Loblaws used to carry only craft beer but now has swill too. I saw some cans of Coors and thought they looked the right size for my chicken so I picked up a six pack. They couldn't actually sell me the beer, "it's not in our system" but was there on display; Coors, Bud, I didn't see PBR but suppose it's there somewhere.
At my Loblaws they keep the swill away from the craft beer. There isn't any overlap. For all of the pronouncements by the Liberals about how much progress had been made in terms of allowing beer at supermarkets, my understanding is that there are certain hours they can be sold, only in a max of 6 packs, same price as the beer store or LCBO (when they show as being on sale at the supermarket, they are also on sale at the Beer Store or LCBO), if a supermarket sells over a certain volume then there are penalties and they have to have a certain % of either craft (non-swill) beers or a certain % of Ontario beer. Can't remember the exact details.

Compare this with Quebec. I"m on beer duty tonight for footie so I went to Aylmer and stocked up on a mixture of swill and some quality beers. No use spending money on quality beer for the team mates who just want something cold and wet. The list of quebec micros at this place is unbelievable plus you can get the 40 oz bottles of cinquante...what more could you want.

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Old Jun 8th 2018, 5:12 pm
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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Where's Magnum? Not back in from celebrating?

very funny

I don’t envy RF job, what a shit show he has to take over from, mounting debt and massive interest payments

wynne single handed destroyed the Liberals party.

The other issue is Liberals only gaining 7 seats. They have lost party status now.

buck a beer, bring it on Lol
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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At my Loblaws they keep the swill away from the craft beer. There isn't any overlap. For all of the pronouncements by the Liberals about how much progress had been made in terms of allowing beer at supermarkets, my understanding is that there are certain hours they can be sold, only in a max of 6 packs, same price as the beer store or LCBO (when they show as being on sale at the supermarket, they are also on sale at the Beer Store or LCBO), if a supermarket sells over a certain volume then there are penalties and they have to have a certain % of either craft (non-swill) beers or a certain % of Ontario beer. Can't remember the exact details.

Compare this with Quebec. I"m on beer duty tonight for footie so I went to Aylmer and stocked up on a mixture of swill and some quality beers. No use spending money on quality beer for the team mates who just want something cold and wet. The list of quebec micros at this place is unbelievable plus you can get the 40 oz bottles of cinquante...what more could you want.

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Why go all the way to Aylmer? The likes of IGA and Metro carry vast amounts of micro beers.
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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Why go all the way to Aylmer? The likes of IGA and Metro carry vast amounts of micro beers.
I had to be at a meeting at what were the old municipal offices in Aylmer and then had post meeting 'debrief' at the British Hotel. I don't think Costco is any cheaper on a per unit basis. They sell in the 60 packs but most of it is swill.
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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Damn, now Kenny is set to win here in Alberta:
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/0...ax_a_23453876/
Well, duh. The NDP only won in the most right-wing province in Canada because the right split their vote across two parties in a first-past-the-post system.

The Albertans I know have been waiting eagerly for their chance to toss them out again, and will be queueing up at dawn on election day to do so.

As for Ford, I'm investing in popcorn futures.
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Seems that Ontarians have shown their true selves in electing Ford. It's the era of small minded intolerant bigots.
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Default Re: Ontario folks how to you feel about Doug Ford?

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Seems that Ontarians have shown their true selves in electing Ford. It's the era of small minded intolerant bigots.
In a couple of other threads, mention has been made of some enlightened policies/procedures in Ontario - The $100 a month payment to Diabetics towards their testing supplies, the GAINS payments to Seniors on OAS that doesn't even need to be applied for because the government already knows their income from tax returns or Trillium...not all provinces have things like this and simple ways of processing them.

Are such things likely to be at risk do you think?
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