No tip with a tip
#91
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Re: No tip with a tip
One thing that really bothers me is the practice of young girls (only the waitresses) half way through an evening out with the girlies (never when I'm with my husband) giving us the bill and asking us to divvy up so they can collect their tip because they've finished for the evening and the next shift are coming in.
They obviously don't want to lose their tips to the next set of waiting staff. Very wrong, the second I caught on to this the tip was down to 10%. I shouldn't have to be getting my credit card out half way through my evening and stopping my conversation because you've finished your shift and want paying. This is of course a management problem which I have taken up with them but would simply never go back. I never go back to a restaurant/pub a second time if they messed up.
They obviously don't want to lose their tips to the next set of waiting staff. Very wrong, the second I caught on to this the tip was down to 10%. I shouldn't have to be getting my credit card out half way through my evening and stopping my conversation because you've finished your shift and want paying. This is of course a management problem which I have taken up with them but would simply never go back. I never go back to a restaurant/pub a second time if they messed up.
#92
Re: No tip with a tip
That's something I find odd here, changeover shifts halfway through the night. When I was in the hospitality trade you would stay with your table until they were done, you might start one for the next wait staff and you might help someone out if they were swamped, drinks and bread roll and even order in some cases but you wouldn't leave your guests.
#93
Re: No tip with a tip
That's something I find odd here, changeover shifts halfway through the night. When I was in the hospitality trade you would stay with your table until they were done, you might start one for the next wait staff and you might help someone out if they were swamped, drinks and bread roll and even order in some cases but you wouldn't leave your guests.
I was just downstairs having a drink with one of my servers and she had deliveratey delayed the start of her shift as the girl before her had had a quiet afternoon so she wanted to give her the chance to earn more cash.
It does seem to me that there is a clique on this thread who are happy to return to the UK way of fighting your way to the bar and crap service, so they don't have to pay a tip.
It's a shame really as the service in North America is probably the best thing about the place.
#94
Re: No tip with a tip
It does seem to me that there is a clique on this thread who are happy to return to the UK way of fighting your way to the bar and crap service, so they don't have to pay a tip.
It's a shame really as the service in North America is probably the best thing about the place.
It's a shame really as the service in North America is probably the best thing about the place.
#95
Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: No tip with a tip
I mostly like to sit at the bar and the only difference then is that you pay as you go rather than run up a tab. Otherwise, yes, I'd much rather the booze comes to me, than me go and collect it. I do miss rounds though - splitting the bill at the end just isn't the same.
#96
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Re: No tip with a tip
I agree, on the whole, the service here is good, it was something I noticed when I first arrived. I suppose what some people have a problem with is not being given the choice of whether they want to be served or are quite happy to go to the bar themselves. Just out of interest, what happens if you sit AT the bar?
#98
Re: No tip with a tip
I mostly like to sit at the bar and the only difference then is that you pay as you go rather than run up a tab. Otherwise, yes, I'd much rather the booze comes to me, than me go and collect it. I do miss rounds though - splitting the bill at the end just isn't the same.
#100
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Re: No tip with a tip
So do we tip to supplement poor wages? It seems unfair that factory workers and refuse collectors don't get this perk. Aren't fair wages a human right we try to protect (hence the legislated minimum wage)? How does tipping help? Or do we tip to reward good service? I'm confused
#101
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Joined: Oct 2011
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Re: No tip with a tip
the 10 days i was in vegas - i think i heard more 'your welcomes' after ive said thank you than ive ever heard in my life.
we tipped a waitress $15 on a $25 bill just because we liked the way she said youre welcome. well it was a 'youre so very welcome' but it was great. hard to explain ha
#102
Re: No tip with a tip
Fascinating, eh?
#103
Joined: Aug 2005
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Re: No tip with a tip
I detest shopping generally, but this aspect particularly. If I'm forced to go into a shop to buy stuff then I expect to be left alone to browse and not be harassed into an pointless social interaction by staff on commission.
#104
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Re: No tip with a tip
i dont think in england most shops are on commission. i was in Mango in vegas and this women just kept following me and commenting on everything i was looking at then i kind of lost her and as soon as i picked something up and headed to the till she practically ran to get to the till like she was trying to get there before anyone else. mango is a big chain of fairly cheap clothes though, why are they on commission??
#105
Re: No tip with a tip
There are only a few clothes stores where you get commissioned staff (Le Chateau and some of the shoe shops and the beauty depts in department stores spring to mind). Most other stores the staff are just expected to meet their targets, they don't get anything for it though. For example I think my target yesterday was just under $1000, I had to sell 2 PWP (purchase with purchase) and sign up 2 rewards - rewards are easy - their free, I usually fail spectacularly on PWP's but I sold just under $4k, I was tired out last night