New airline to Canada
 

Just got some info for this new company FYI-
www.britflights.com. Prices don't seem too bad.:unsure:

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Daft choice of name as it's also the name of a model aircraft maker.

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Not sure I'd want to spend that long on an antique sardine can.

The 747-300 kit it will be using is very old. The planes will be cozy. They are talking 470-543 seats. By way of comparison, a British Airways 747-400 holds 329 max.

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I flew on AC yesterday. I'm happy to report that, after umpteen tries, I still haven't been on an AC flight that was on time. The staff were as officious as ever. Britflights looks as an attractive alternative to me.

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Ever tried Canjet? Really, really, really shit.

Shit squared.

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Air Canada; "We're not happy 'til you're not happy"

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flew cramjet in novembe r 2009 montreal to orlando...your description missed one extra really really.

http://www.upgradetravelbetter.com/w...ight-pitch.jpg

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From their website, To begin exploring Britflights’s exciting list of destinations please choose a city from the drop down menu or from the map above

Problem is they only fly from Gatwick to Vancouver or Toronto and return.

I'd hardly call that an exciting list of destinations.

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I feel your pain. We had the dubious pleasure of using them for an Ottawa-Puerto Plata trip over the hols. The woman kicked off the flight before takeoff (pissed) doesn't know how lucky she was.

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Wasn't there a company recently who appeared on the interweb , and then disappeared just as quickly, offering flights to Canada from the UK?

I'm too lazy to search

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http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690048

This one?

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An attempt to relaunch Zoom, IIRC.

This new one has got disaster written all over it. I give it six months.

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You are probably right , I suspect.
Shame though, Zoom was a decent low cost carrier.
Weren't there suspicions of dodgy dealings by a credit company that eventually caused the cash flow problems?

seem to recall something along those lines.

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Dunno, but couldn't that be down to all that space first class and business class takes up?

Maybe she knew something nobody else did. :sneaky:

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The absence of first and business class will make a difference, I agree. I'm still prepared to bet that the planes will be cramped, however.

The broad had probably heeded the instruction to arrive at the airport three hours in advance. There isn't much to do in Ottawa airport when you have two hours and 45 minutes to kill.

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Great. We'll be inundated with more Northerners.

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my gf often behaves in t his manner too...sheesh! cant takeher anywhere!;)

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Its using Icelandic Air again!

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I hope you don't mean she of the golden tresses with the bow and arrow ! ;)

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No it isn't. Icelandair is a scheduled carrier and doesn't use 747s. Air Atlanta Icelandic is a cargo and wet-lease outfit. It does have 747s.

Ponder this.

"Flights from the UK to Canada are to be operated for Canada Extra from June 2011. Flights will operate from Glasgow & Gatwick to Calgary, Toronto and Vancouver and will be flown by Boeing 747-300 aircraft."

That's from Wikipedia. Canada Extra, as we know, was stillborn.

The new outfit will start flights from Gatwick to Toronto and Vancouver in July 2011, using 747-300s from Air Atlanta Icelandic.

Slight coincidence there.

I was wrong about seat pitch in an earlier post but 31" still isn't great.

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hmm - but when you google the flight numbers they present when you use the site - they are Icelandic Air flights! strange

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Googled this airline, not much on them except this thread.. http://www.openjaw.com/stories/story.php?id=1261

long and short is sounds good, but could be suspect, again just like Zoom, were good while they lasted but this Alberta HQ thing could be a problem. Hope not prices are great....

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I flew to Calgary Tuesday and after a 6 hour wait in London they flew us to Toronto where we then sat on the tarmac for an hour as the washroom at the front of the plane wouldn't work . I wouldn't mind but they are all compulsive liars. Should have stuck with Westjet !

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I wouldn't go that far but I think it's fair to say that the staff are very governmental, they have the level of commitment and enthusiasm one finds among employees of the Liquor Control Board of Ontario and prison warders. I had a phase of flying AC from west coast locations, LA, San Franciso, and so on, very often the plane wouldn't go on the right day because the staff were too late for the plane to make the curfew in Toronto. This would be due to "traffic", "weather" or some other factor that plainly didn't affect the passengers. My return trip last week was almost on time, which would have disappointed me after all these years of **** ups, but the pilot missed the gate and had to go around the whole taxiway again adding half an hour to the gate-to-gate time.

Incidentally, I was amused to see that the Toronto airport now has lots of signs announcing that it's the world's most improved airport. Still shit, of course, but now with efficiency and hospitality approaching that of the Buffalo Greyhound bus station.

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It has improved with the advent of free wifi, which works rather better here in the Maple Leaf lounge than downstairs with the proles. That enables me to BE whilst I wait for my delayed flight to New Orleans. On Air Canada of course.

EDITTED to add: Just realised that I am sitting in a real Maple Leaf Lounge, posting on a virtual Maple Leaf Lounge. How very web 2.0 of me.

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I thought it worked fine at the gate so, yes, it's an improvement. I don't go in AC lounges anymore because I find them inhospitable, I think it's more friendly outside with the illiterate concession stand operators and bullying security guards.

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It's my first time in a Maple Lead lounge and it certainly lacks something compared to the vague memories I have of BA Club lounges in the mid 90's. Having got up at 3:00am Nfld time, I will shortly be leaving the rarified atmosphere in search of something more sustaining that toast and yogurt.

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That translates as "bar".

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Good Luck. Take money, lots of it;)

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Sadly not. Have to drive when I get to NOLA.

Pizza slice, pop and chips for $7. Claimed on expenses, natch.;)

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I have a client there, well Metarie, which is close enough. You're not, by any chance, going to get your laundry done, are you?

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That's not my intention but one never knows....

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Be careful, folks.

Here is britflights website:
http://www.britflights.com/index.cfm...ubDsp.dspTerms

And here is jetaway2canada's website (google cache)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=ca



Pretty similar huh?
Well, some of you might recall how Jetaway2Canada went under last year taking a bunch of folks money with it. Same MO. Emails out in the new year, followed by the bad news email not soon after.

Make your own judgments. At a minimum perhaps it might be sensible to book in such a way that you will see your money again if something goes wrong.

Just sayin'.

This is not advice.



*UPDATE*
Looks like no ATOL for britflights. (ie no refunds).
At least we got our money back from Jetaway2Canada.
Scary stuff.

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Apparently it is the same people who were behind zoom, gotravelsouth and canadaextra.com, all of which went bust in the last few years leaving lots of people in the lurch. Beware!

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Better try Yorkshire Airlines then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VLYpKGVBUg