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Javarne Jul 20th 2012 2:06 am

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I am planning to have my credentials evaluated soon and was wondering what sort of qualifications people had before sitting them. I have read that a lot of people only have to do the 4 Canadian specific exams. I have a LLB from England and am a fully qualified English solicitor.

Thanks in advance

Merry Jul 20th 2012 11:58 am

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Have a search for my previous posts and you'll find a whole range of experiences. I qualified in Scotland in 1994 but only practiced in an office for a couple of years. I worked health policy after that and came to Canada in 2010 as FSW (manager in healthcare). I was asked do 8 exams and was told it was because I was coming from a hybrid jurisdiction but eight (albeit not the same 8) is not unusual. A cynic might think there was a financial reason for this;)
Good luck!

scheherazade Jul 20th 2012 2:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Javarne (Post 10183464)
I am planning to have my credentials evaluated soon and was wondering what sort of qualifications people had before sitting them. I have read that a lot of people only have to do the 4 Canadian specific exams. I have a LLB from England and am a fully qualified English solicitor.

Thanks in advance

I was called to the Bar in 2006 and had been in criminal practice pretty much since then. I have to do 5 in total (first is August 27th!)

Aberdeen_Loon Jul 20th 2012 4:00 pm

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With a Scottish LLB and an English LLM I was granted absolutely zero advanced standing by the NCA. Nevertheless, I now have two Canadian lawyers reporting to me, and am co-authoring a book on Canadian law.

I'm now finding that I'm stuck in my career and need to be a qualified Canadian lawyer to progress any further. Strangely enough, I'm actually toying with the idea of doing more UK law courses and possibly a new part-time "executive LLM" (GPLLM) at the University of Toronto that includes up to five courses recognized for the Certificate of Qualification. Studying full-time at a Canadian law school is just not financially possible for me at this point (they make it so difficult for people who have careers or who are of relatively modest means to study law over here).

I applied to the NCA six years ago, but I'm hoping my quasi-legal work experience and the legal writing I've done, combined with additional UK and Canadian legal qualifications, will get me some advanced standing. From what I understand, the NCA has relaxed their requirements somewhat in recent years.

I feel so envious even when I hear about people who have to sit 10 NCA exams! If I had to sit all of them I'd do it in a heartbeat! :frown:

redmoose Jul 22nd 2012 1:48 am

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Originally Posted by Aberdeen_Loon (Post 10184482)
With a Scottish LLB and an English LLM I was granted absolutely zero advanced standing by the NCA. Nevertheless, I now have two Canadian lawyers reporting to me, and am co-authoring a book on Canadian law.

I'm now finding that I'm stuck in my career and need to be a qualified Canadian lawyer to progress any further. Strangely enough, I'm actually toying with the idea of doing more UK law courses and possibly a new part-time "executive LLM" (GPLLM) at the University of Toronto that includes up to five courses recognized for the Certificate of Qualification. Studying full-time at a Canadian law school is just not financially possible for me at this point (they make it so difficult for people who have careers or who are of relatively modest means to study law over here).

I applied to the NCA six years ago, but I'm hoping my quasi-legal work experience and the legal writing I've done, combined with additional UK and Canadian legal qualifications, will get me some advanced standing. From what I understand, the NCA has relaxed their requirements somewhat in recent years.

I feel so envious even when I hear about people who have to sit 10 NCA exams! If I had to sit all of them I'd do it in a heartbeat! :frown:

I have a Scottish LLB too (from Aberdeen actually) but never practised in the UK. I have to do 10 exams here, which I thought was fair enough. I will hopefully be done next month.

It is, however, a bit of an expensive and/ or time consuming process. As others have mentioned too, getting an articling position can be the biggest challenge. I didn't experience any problems though so it definitely can be done - some employers, especially in smaller markets, value maturity and experience more than others.

As Merry mentioned above, it takes a long time to get anywhere with the FLSC so be ready for a bit of a wait if you decide to proceed.

FirstRatofftheShipUK Jul 29th 2012 9:40 am

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Originally Posted by scheherazade (Post 10184389)
I was called to the Bar in 2006 and had been in criminal practice pretty much since then. I have to do 5 in total (first is August 27th!)

Same PQE boat, different paddles, fished and landed (7) exams in the end... so count yourself lucky.;) Crap shoot as has been mentioned before.

FROTSUK

Aberdeen_Loon Aug 4th 2012 2:41 pm

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Originally Posted by redmoose (Post 10186471)
I have a Scottish LLB too (from Aberdeen actually) but never practised in the UK. I have to do 10 exams here, which I thought was fair enough. I will hopefully be done next month.

It is, however, a bit of an expensive and/ or time consuming process. As others have mentioned too, getting an articling position can be the biggest challenge. I didn't experience any problems though so it definitely can be done - some employers, especially in smaller markets, value maturity and experience more than others.

As Merry mentioned above, it takes a long time to get anywhere with the FLSC so be ready for a bit of a wait if you decide to proceed.

Thanks. It took a while to get my first recommendation from them six years ago. It's going to be a long haul if I do decide to proceed.

The thing is my legal qualifications seem to be holding me back in my other career, I believe because of (mostly correct) employers' assumptions about law being my true passion. However, at least I have a relatively decent job for the time being that allows me to use my legal background and my other business qualifications and experience.

When were you at Aberdeen University? I suspect I might be a bit older than you, but I was there from 1990 to 1993.

Up North Oct 9th 2012 4:37 pm

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Hi, I am hopeing to write the four mandatory exams in Jan 2013. Is anyone else planning on doing the same?

toniwharton Oct 12th 2012 2:19 am

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Originally Posted by Up North (Post 10322904)
Hi, I am hopeing to write the four mandatory exams in Jan 2013. Is anyone else planning on doing the same?

Hi,
I have just registered for the 4 core exams and corporate law for January 2013. Trying to find somewhere to buy the books second hand/cheaper. Have you bought books yet? Any ideas?

Merry Oct 12th 2012 2:44 pm

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Not strictly on topic but just wanted to update my own thread - I was admitted the Nova Scotia Bar this morning!

Totally unreal as I never, ever thought I'd practice law again - came to Canada as skilled worker (manager in healthcare).

Happy to help anyone else out on this journey if I can.

ann m Oct 12th 2012 3:39 pm

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Very well done - congrats.

Now of course, if you remain on this forum, and now that you are "legal", you must be prepared to be tarred and feathered on a regular basis. :p

Almost Canadian Oct 13th 2012 5:57 am

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Originally Posted by Merry (Post 10328256)
Not strictly on topic but just wanted to update my own thread - I was admitted the Nova Scotia Bar this morning!

Totally unreal as I never, ever thought I'd practice law again - came to Canada as skilled worker (manager in healthcare).

Happy to help anyone else out on this journey if I can.

Congratulations:thumbsup:

Up North Oct 14th 2012 8:52 am

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Originally Posted by toniwharton (Post 10327422)
Hi,
I have just registered for the 4 core exams and corporate law for January 2013. Trying to find somewhere to buy the books second hand/cheaper. Have you bought books yet? Any ideas?

Toni, I bought the books direct from the publishers. I think there is a new edition of the Hogg Constitutional Law book out but the 2011 can still be used. Good luck!

FirstRatofftheShipUK Oct 14th 2012 9:55 am

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Originally Posted by Merry (Post 10328256)
Not strictly on topic but just wanted to update my own thread - I was admitted the Nova Scotia Bar this morning!

Totally unreal as I never, ever thought I'd practice law again - came to Canada as skilled worker (manager in healthcare).

Happy to help anyone else out on this journey if I can.

Well done. Wrote all of mine in August in one sitting (not too prohibitive and can be done) and now just waaaiiiitttting on the slug NCA...:thumbup:

FROTSUK

scheherazade Oct 15th 2012 2:19 pm

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I am doing criminal and corporate in January; waiting for the results from the August foundations...
I'm over on a SOWP and we haven't even applied for PR yet so no rush as I can't be admitted to the Bar for a while yet (sigh).


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