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Shard Jun 20th 2017 12:05 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12276849)
Maybe the guy who mowed down the muslims the other evening will find Christianity in prison and be forgiven for his sins in the years to come

Sounds like he was a nutjob to be begin with, so that's quite likely.

Shard Jun 20th 2017 12:07 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12276871)
Wasn't it not saying prayers rather than not burying them? Or was this some other report? In any case, I thought the fact that it was considered newsworthy was because it was unusual to withhold prayers, further suggesting that normally they did do so.

The recent Paris incident didn't seem to get much coverage.

Botched or second thoughts from someone not wholly committed?

We're getting spoilt for choice on terrorist events lately. It's becoming like gun crime in the US, a fact of life.

MikeUK Jun 20th 2017 3:05 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12276821)
My point was that both religions are ridiculous. I don't have an in-depth knowledge of the Islam virus, however, the the actions of over hundred Islamic leaders who refuse to bury one of their dead (albeit wicked terrorists) suggest that there is no principle of forgiveness, as their is in Christianity.

This Wikipedia guide may help, but the whole prayer thing is very similar to last rites and focuses on forgiveness


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salat_al-Janazah


What I make of the removal of the prayers, is IMHO a formal denial that they are a Muslim, it's a sort of 'excommunication' by the Imam's for a very big sin ?

dave_j Jun 20th 2017 3:32 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12276875)
It's becoming like gun crime in the US, a fact of life.

Not quite, in fact there is little comparison.
Guns kill nearly 1,300 US children each year - CNN.com

Stinkypup Jun 20th 2017 4:16 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12277082)
Not quite, in fact there is little comparison.
Guns kill nearly 1,300 US children each year - CNN.com

Yes but some avenge their fallen brothers and sisters

With 2016 over, a toddler has now shot a person every week in the US for two years straight

Danny B Jun 20th 2017 8:03 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12277098)

What kind of parent keeps a loaded gun in the house without a trigger lock? Seriously, wtf is wrong with people?

Stinkypup Jun 20th 2017 8:08 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12277182)
What kind of parent keeps a loaded gun in the house without a trigger lock? Seriously, wtf is wrong with people?

A Republican? :lol:

All we need now is a spider letting loose with a sidearm and we will really be in trouble - a Huntsman spider given the name would be the likely suspect :unsure:

bats Jun 20th 2017 11:31 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 12277067)
This Wikipedia guide may help, but the whole prayer thing is very similar to last rites and focuses on forgiveness


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salat_al-Janazah


What I make of the removal of the prayers, is IMHO a formal denial that they are a Muslim, it's a sort of 'excommunication' by the Imam's for a very big sin ?

Because their actions are incompatible with the teachings of Islam.

UK: Over 130 Imams refuse to perform funeral prayer for London terror attackers - The Muslim NewsThe Muslim News

magnumpi Jun 21st 2017 12:24 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.dailym...l-station.html

sex offender and ISIS lone solder is no more, at last a happy terror story

Shard Jun 22nd 2017 4:26 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 12277067)
This Wikipedia guide may help, but the whole prayer thing is very similar to last rites and focuses on forgiveness


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salat_al-Janazah


What I make of the removal of the prayers, is IMHO a formal denial that they are a Muslim, it's a sort of 'excommunication' by the Imam's for a very big sin ?

MikeUK! You're back.

Yes, I get their rationale from a 'community' perspective, though technically within Islam their is no power structure which could lead to an 'excommunication'. Out of curiosity, was there any burial denial (etc.) for the IRA terrorists? I can't recall...

MikeUK Jun 22nd 2017 10:54 pm

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12278474)
MikeUK! You're back.

Yes, I get their rationale from a 'community' perspective, though technically within Islam their is no power structure which could lead to an 'excommunication'. Out of curiosity, was there any burial denial (etc.) for the IRA terrorists? I can't recall...

Unlikely, as the UVF (also now known as UDM ;) and the like was also getting lauded by there respective church's

Shard Jun 30th 2017 3:29 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 
Hoping this dude gets incarcerated in a prison where some justice can be properly dispensed.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...beckton-london

magnumpi Jun 30th 2017 4:33 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12284049)
Hoping this dude gets incarcerated in a prison where some justice can be properly dispensed.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...beckton-london

Makes u wonder exactly how many vigilante attacks there have been and gone unreported?

Shard Jun 30th 2017 5:11 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12284147)
Makes u wonder exactly how many vigilante attacks there have been and gone unreported?

British society seems pretty toxic these days. Terrorism, stabbings, hate speech, what went wrong.

BristolUK Jun 30th 2017 5:16 am

Re: More terrorism in UK
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12284197)
British society seems pretty toxic these days. Terrorism, stabbings, hate speech, what went wrong.

They miss me. :rofl:


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