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Jingsamichty Mar 31st 2019 11:41 am

McMansion
 
Does this qualify?


Former Lancastrian Mar 31st 2019 12:48 pm

Re: McMansion
 
Does it meet this definition?

In suburban communities, McMansion is a pejorative term for a large "mass-produced" dwelling, constructed with low-quality materials and craftsmanship, using a mishmash of architectural symbols to invoke connotations of wealth or taste, executed via poorly imagined exterior and interior design.

It's not exactly mass produced and doesn't specify if high end construction materials used. 3 bedroom and 9 bathrooms WTF. Too much grass to cut and will be a bitch for clearing snow. Thinking of buying it Jings?

dbd33 Mar 31st 2019 1:06 pm

Re: McMansion
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 12663676)
Does this qualify?

Old people's home, surely?

Former Lancastrian Mar 31st 2019 1:21 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12663708)
Old people's home, surely?

Or a well off project managers or IT consultants retirement present. Obviously, the owner hosted parties hence the 9 bathrooms but didn't want the guests staying overnight as only 3 bedrooms on main floor but plenty of room for inflatable mattresses.

dbd33 Mar 31st 2019 2:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12663719)
Or a well off project managers or IT consultants retirement present. Obviously, the owner hosted parties hence the 9 bathrooms but didn't want the guests staying overnight as only 3 bedrooms on main floor but plenty of room for inflatable mattresses.

That's quite the analysis, I only looked at the outside.

caretaker Mar 31st 2019 2:17 pm

Re: McMansion
 
For 10 million there should be a ranch attached.

spouse of scouse Mar 31st 2019 2:22 pm

Re: McMansion
 
Imagine having to clean the bloody thing!

Former Lancastrian Mar 31st 2019 2:36 pm

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12663747)
Imagine having to clean the bloody thing!

I tend to think the owner would have Molly Maid or another cleaning service on speed dial.

dave_j Mar 31st 2019 3:56 pm

Re: McMansion
 
Severely overpriced I think. Reported average cost of a new build is $150/sf. This house 13000sf. Cost therefore about $2M. So lets assume a 100% premium to ensure high quality finish and you get to $4M.
So is land expensive here? A glance at Realtor.ca has this desirable residence on offer a little along the same road. https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/1...ky-view-county , and here you get a comparative shack with 150 acres for $1.25M, that's right 150 acres suggesting the 4 acres on offer is valued at around $50k.
You'd need to want to launder a thick wadge of cash to consider this one.
On the other hand it's probably owned by Donald Trump and we've come to understand how decimal points have a sort of ethereal quality where valuation of his properties is concerned.

Partially discharged Mar 31st 2019 4:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 12663676)
Does this qualify?


How about these lovely places.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.43980...7i13312!8i6656

https://goo.gl/maps/Ef3NNtkAEw62

https://torontolife.com/real-estate/...reduced-price/ Not sure if it is still for sale or not.

Jingsamichty Mar 31st 2019 4:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12663697)
Thinking of buying it Jings?

If I had $10m to spend on a house I certainly wouldn't be buying that monstrosity.

It's definitely a product of a small insular market which has developed its own sets of ideas and norms about what a "luxury house" ought to include... it's a bit like evolution really, where little mutations to the norm eventually become attractive and highly exaggerated in isolated communities - the freakish becomes the new normal. Then someone from outside comes in and sees it and thinks, "Christ almighty, what on earth has happened here??!!"



scrubbedexpat091 Mar 31st 2019 5:26 pm

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If I had 10 million, I would not be buying a house in Alberta when you can gave ocean front house.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8...16718320_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...16850262_zpid/

Partially discharged Mar 31st 2019 6:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12663817)

Some real estate listings are more pretentious than wine bottles......this one says that the house is 'motivated by the ocean's elements'

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 31st 2019 6:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12663847)
Some real estate listings are more pretentious than wine bottles......this one says that the house is 'motivated by the ocean's elements'

Rich people talk lol

Here is another.....this is the 2nd most expensive house listed for that area, only 30 million US$.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...16834391_zpid/


"property that pays homage to a cinematic landscape where cliffs meet the infinity of ocean."

Partially discharged Mar 31st 2019 7:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12663852)
Rich people talk lol

Here is another.....this is the 2nd most expensive house listed for that area, only 30 million US$.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...16834391_zpid/


"property that pays homage to a cinematic landscape where cliffs meet the infinity of ocean."

Well that description applies to a $30 million home not a mere $10 million place to rest your head. I find it quite odd that they quote the monthly mortgage payments for the $30 million home which would scare most people off.

My wife went to San Diego years ago and raved about how beautiful La Jolla was.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 31st 2019 7:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12663882)
Well that description applies to a $30 million home not a mere $10 million place to rest your head. I find it quite odd that they quote the monthly mortgage payments for the $30 million home which would scare most people off.

My wife went to San Diego years ago and raved about how beautiful La Jolla was.

If you have the money La Jolla is the place to be. Coronado is up there as well, but lack the views there, La Jolla has the views. Some part of North County along the coast is also quite nice.


BristolUK Mar 31st 2019 8:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12663817)
If I had 10 million, I would not be buying a house in Alberta when you can gave ocean front house.



That first one will fall off the cliff in a few years.


scrubbedexpat091 Mar 31st 2019 8:20 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12663889)
That first one will fall off the cliff in a few years.

yeah it will eventually, does happen from time to time, its a risk people take though.

Can't stop the ocean.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...326806121.html

https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/cli...ornia-36536264

dave_j Apr 1st 2019 12:36 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12663892)
Can't stop the ocean.

Quite.
What price beachfront properties as sea level rises?
Q. Who will build the wall that Mare Largo will need to keep the sea out? The cubans?


jandro Apr 1st 2019 2:20 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12663889)
That first one will fall off the cliff in a few years.

Not only will it go over the cliff in the next big rain storm but before that the foundations will probably crack because it looks likes it's built on a sand dune. The $30M mansion looks like an aquarium. The rooms would be too bright and it looks like there's no privacy in the washroom.

Siouxie Apr 1st 2019 5:03 am

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Wouldn't say no to this one - on a lake..http://comchoice.ca/listing/4-784-sa...-1s8-20434419/
https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Condo.../72255982.html

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 1st 2019 5:29 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12664018)

Even has boat parking.

Jingsamichty Apr 1st 2019 6:13 am

Re: McMansion
 
I think Jsmth has the right idea... if you've got tens of millions to drop on a property, a fancy designer concrete & glass box by the sea is a way better option than a Holiday Inn-style mansion made of 2"x4" in the middle of the steppes.

Although I'd far rather it was on the Mediterranean rather than the US coast. :)

BristolUK Apr 1st 2019 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12664018)
Wouldn't say no to this one...

Nice little pool there ;)


Pulaski Apr 1st 2019 3:23 pm

Re: McMansion
 

Originally Posted by jandro (Post 12663986)
….. it looks like there's no privacy in the washroom.

That isn't something that people in the US seem to give much thought to, and I have never seen frosted/ patterned glass in a bathroom or toilet, even on the ground floor, other than "windows" constructed from glass blocks. It is one of the luxuries of housing in the US, that there is sufficient room between dwellings that you often really don't need privacy screening, …. or at least you didn't until drones became ubiquitous! :(

Our ground floor bathroom has a glass block window (which actually affords relatively little privacy if you stand outside and peer through it), the upstairs bathroom has no window, but the downstairs "half bath" (toilet) has a plane glass window that looks out to the wooded bank opposite 15m-40m away. There is a venetian blind over the window, but I like the view. :) The perceived lack of privacy used to freak out my mother when she visited even though (i) the window is above head height on the outside, (ii) the light, shade, and/or angle of the sun makes it difficult to make out anything inside looking from outside, except at night if you turn the light on, and (iii) we own all the property outside the window, including the wooded bank and beyond, and there isn't anyone out there trying to look in!

Danny B Apr 1st 2019 3:49 pm

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I like the cinema room.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 1st 2019 3:55 pm

Re: McMansion
 
I like those ocean homes with all the glass for the natural light they get, nothing better then a house with lots of natural lighting. The views are nice too. And being right on the ocean, you have a natural method of keeping cool most of the summer, only during Santa Ana's does the coast really warm up.


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