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But if they aren't found how do we know?

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? They're reported missing. We're talking about abductions, not deaths.

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It hardly matters. If there are, as suggested above, 60 abductions per year in a population of 60 million people then the risk is about the same as that of being struck by lightning (http://www.torro.org.uk/site/lightning_info.php), that is, not sufficient to warrant taking any particular precaution against.

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60 children reported missing isn't the same as 60 abducted. How many were just lost in the woods?

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Kid population (untethered). Perhaps lightning whilst sitting on the church roof?

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No it's proper abductions. Gone missing is a category as is uncle Fred. In fact in 2011 there were about 200, if I recall correctly. Here's the report I skimmed earlier. See page 36.

http://ceop.police.uk/Documents/ceop...nal%20Copy.pdf

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One gets a gobful from stangers for tethering children, though I can't say that ever bothered me. It's somewhat ironic that reins are out of fashion and so is kicking them out to play until supper time.

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OK, then proper abductions are as common as lightning striking a person. I assume this includes abductions by family members and/or the other parent so actual stranger abductions are rare as hens' teeth.

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Oh we do that. Some sliver of sanity is required.

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273 victims (abducted by strangers) in 2011 according to the report. Not really hens teeth.

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I did that too. But, by way of balance, I'd bellow at them, as they went off to parties, from the age of four or so, "have you got a condom?", "don't get in cars with weirdos you don't know", "stay away from the chemicals, stick with weed and booze". One does one's best to foster both independence and prudence in one's children.

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Yeah, totally agree. I also agree that other children go missing every year and don't get this much 'paid for' media attention. What's in it for the McCanns ? I mean, really ? Clear their name of all the rumours ?

Do I know where Madelaine McCann is ? No, and I wasn't out drinking on the night she disappeared either. Did the girl's mother really exclaim, 'they've taken her ?'

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I'd heard that:

"About 60-100 "stranger abductions" are said to take place in Britain annually, if anything the statistical trend seems fairly even."

but I suppose that was wrong.

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When am I getting mine ? I've agreed with the poster you denigrate. Good luck with your, 'once upon a time' view of child rearing.

Here's a bit more ammunition for you: I don't have and don't want children.

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I was being conservative (based on other articles and Hansard). Of course annually and 2011 are different beasts. Apologies for the confusion. :unsure:

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But if the kids and abductors are never found and then how can you be certain it wad a stranger?

I hear ya

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According to the Crimewatch reconstruction, the key suspect has been ruled out, and now there is a new key suspect who has been identified by an efit image. Amazingly, they received 1000 calls from this televised appeal.

Nevertheless, the reconstruction did have some peculiarities. At the time of discovery, KM enters the flat and notices the kids' room door more ajar than it should be, she decides to close it without bothering to make visual confirmation of Madeleine (which presumably was her reason for being there) and the door slams shut because of the wind (open window). It is that slamming that causes her to think twice and open the door again, she then notices the forced window, and then notices her daughter missing.

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The efit looks like the dad ....

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OMG!

But it doesn't really.

Apparently the efit guy was carrying Maddy 500 m through the town streets. That seems a bit implausible (no get away vehicle).

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That's what I thought.

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Who's Dad?

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There are two efits and they look different. So how do they help?

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Has it occurred to anyone to wonder what an efit is?

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No, cos we all know.

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"Who is this Gazza?" :rofl:

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Here's my thoughts on this:

I think the police are wrong to be thinking this was a planned abduction, no way would someone planning to abduct a child be walking the streets with her, they would have put her in a car straight away. Unless that is what happened & the 10pm sighting wasn't her.

If that was Maddie then this strikes me as more of an opportunistic crime. Maybe she did disturb a burglar & if that was the case the burglar would have 4 options:

1) Just leave (clearly didn't happen).

2) Kill her there & then (no evidence that happened & probably would've left the body).

3) Take her & hold her for ransom (a possibility, maybe he then panicked & killed her because of the huge publicity).

4). He happened to have a thing for young kids so took her (most likely scenario unfortunately, he has either since killed her or she is locked up in a basement somewhere)

I would say the odds are against her at still being alive & if she is she's not living with some nice family raising her as their own, she's probably living in a horrible nightmare.

The efits do look quite similar if you look at the features, & yes while it may have a passing resemblance to Gerry McCann he was somewhere else at that time with dozens of witnesses so it definitely wasn't him.

I don't think it's fair to keep blaming the parents, the only person to blame is the one that took her, & besides plenty of kids have been abducted with their parents in the next room, it still could have happened whether they were there or not.

Also this story remains in the media not because she is a middle class white girl but because the parents campaign hard for it.

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+1.

Apart from the fact they are both white guys with dark hair, i didn't see any resemblence at all between the dad and the efit.