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ducktastic Jul 22nd 2010 10:48 pm

Maple Ridge
 
Hi everyone
We have a chance of a rental in Maple Ridge for 6 months. Can anyone give me:
1. An honest impression of Maple Ridge
2. How long it takes to drive to downtown
3. Are there good public transport links to downtown if needed

Thank you all! :)

el_richo Jul 22nd 2010 11:03 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by ducktastic (Post 8722605)
Hi everyone
We have a chance of a rental in Maple Ridge for 6 months. Can anyone give me:
1. An honest impression of Maple Ridge
We have family and friends in and around there. It's not my favourite place in the world but the "countryside" around there is lovely. Like most places, it has nice areas and shitty ones. The schools are quite well run, if you have kids. You also have most of the general stores you'd need within driving distance. Maple Ridge itself does have more of a seedy element than not, in my opinion.
2. How long it takes to drive to downtown
Depends on traffic and time of day but could be anything from 45 minutes to 2 hours as a worse case scenario
3. Are there good public transport links to downtown if needed
The only easy transport downtown would be the West Coast Express. This is quite a limited service ranging from 6am ish until 8am ish westbound, and eastbound begins from around 4pm ish until about 6pm.

Thank you all! :)

Some info in red :)

Aviator Jul 23rd 2010 2:28 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by ducktastic (Post 8722605)
Hi everyone
We have a chance of a rental in Maple Ridge for 6 months. Can anyone give me:
1. An honest impression of Maple Ridge
2. How long it takes to drive to downtown
3. Are there good public transport links to downtown if needed

Thank you all! :)

Depends where in M.R. There are some OK rural areas, but it would not be my first (2nd or 3rd come to that) choice.

As has been said, the West Coast Express is the best way downtown. Driving in rush hours can be a nightmare at the best of time.

ducktastic Jul 23rd 2010 3:25 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8723115)
Depends where in M.R. There are some OK rural areas, but it would not be my first (2nd or 3rd come to that) choice.

As has been said, the West Coast Express is the best way downtown. Driving in rush hours can be a nightmare at the best of time.

ooh er thanks for the post...after yours and el richo that kind of answers that then and confirms my suspicions!

The4BellsLondon Jul 23rd 2010 3:54 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 
I teach put at Pitt Meadows (just before the Ridge) a couple of times a week - I drive from near SFU (Burnaby) and always allow my self an hour - even in rush hour I usually have a 10 minutes to spare - Although if the traffic reports are bad I have been know to force my son to come so that I can use the HOV lane!

Alan2005 Jul 23rd 2010 4:22 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 8723301)
I teach put at Pitt Meadows (just before the Ridge) a couple of times a week - I drive from near SFU (Burnaby) and always allow my self an hour - even in rush hour I usually have a 10 minutes to spare - Although if the traffic reports are bad I have been know to force my son to come so that I can use the HOV lane!

The HOV lane is great.

Maple Ridge itself is just a blob of sprawl east of vancouver - it aint pretty. The countryside is very nice though especially the bit between MR and Mission.

Aviator Jul 23rd 2010 10:09 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by ducktastic (Post 8723239)
ooh er thanks for the post...after yours and el richo that kind of answers that then and confirms my suspicions!

Take a look out along highway 7 as far as Mission. Nicer more rural area close to WCE.

JonboyE Jul 23rd 2010 10:16 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8723364)
The HOV lane is great.

Maple Ridge itself is just a blob of sprawl east of vancouver - it aint pretty. The countryside is very nice though especially the bit between MR and Mission.

<pedant mode>

There isn't a bit between Maple Ridge and Mission. They share a border.

</pedant mode>.

dboy Jul 24th 2010 3:00 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 
Not that it helps much right now, bit within the next three years, hwy 1 will be much, much better than it is now. the port man is being replaced and will go from two lanes to 5 each way with a dedicated bus lane and options to include light transit in the future.

http://www.pmh1project.com/

the hwy itself is being greatly expanded between vancouver and langley and will have 2 additional lanes each way.

it is also very likely that the evergreen line will be completed within the next 5 years which will also help.

10 years overdue as far as I'm concerned but I'm glad its finally being addressed.

Aviator Jul 24th 2010 3:40 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 8725285)
Not that it helps much right now, bit within the next three years, hwy 1 will be much, much better than it is now. the port man is being replaced and will go from two lanes to 5 each way with a dedicated bus lane and options to include light transit in the future.

http://www.pmh1project.com/

the hwy itself is being greatly expanded between vancouver and langley and will have 2 additional lanes each way.

it is also very likely that the evergreen line will be completed within the next 5 years which will also help.

10 years overdue as far as I'm concerned but I'm glad its finally being addressed.

Lets wait an see if it's any better. Highway one was not congested at all except for an hour or so 16 years ago, now getting over the bridge is just the first hurdle. East bound line ups go all the way out to Abbotsford on a bad day (most) and traffic volume is increasing all the time. There never used to be line ups on the weekend, now it is no better than the week days.

As it is going to be a toll route, the other access points may become more congested, such as the Deas Island tunnel + others. Throw in a few accidents, breakdowns and the looky loos.

The Golden Ears bridge to Pitt is great though, hardly anyone uses it!

Alan2005 Jul 24th 2010 4:37 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8725362)
Lets wait an see if it's any better. Highway one was not congested at all except for an hour or so 16 years ago, now getting over the bridge is just the first hurdle. East bound line ups go all the way out to Abbotsford on a bad day (most) and traffic volume is increasing all the time. There never used to be line ups on the weekend, now it is no better than the week days.

As it is going to be a toll route, the other access points may become more congested, such as the Deas Island tunnel + others. Throw in a few accidents, breakdowns and the looky loos.

The Golden Ears bridge to Pitt is great though, hardly anyone uses it!

The highway is only half the problem. Depending on the traffic it can take 45 minutes (or more) to get to the highway from say hastings/burrard and vice-versa. Widening the highway won't solve that problem.

What really need to happen is for the west coast express gets turned into a proper train service along the lines of something like the thames link in london. This will probably happen at some point given that the infrastructure is already there and sprawl will create the demand.

dboy Jul 24th 2010 4:55 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8725362)
Lets wait an see if it's any better. Highway one was not congested at all except for an hour or so 16 years ago, now getting over the bridge is just the first hurdle. East bound line ups go all the way out to Abbotsford on a bad day (most) and traffic volume is increasing all the time. There never used to be line ups on the weekend, now it is no better than the week days.

As it is going to be a toll route, the other access points may become more congested, such as the Deas Island tunnel + others. Throw in a few accidents, breakdowns and the looky loos.

The Golden Ears bridge to Pitt is great though, hardly anyone uses it!

of course it will be better, alrhough I was surprised that it is only being upgraded to as far as Langley, they should take it out to the wack. As for hwy 1 it was bad years ago and i've been using it for 17 years. About 1996 ish was when they built the HOV lane which helped a little at the time. there have been no improvements since then.

Alan is right, the fact that vancouver has no hwy it is time consuming to get to the hwy as is the same for the southern communities. One thing i really like about north van is easy access to hwy

el_richo Jul 24th 2010 5:05 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8725444)
The highway is only half the problem. Depending on the traffic it can take 45 minutes (or more) to get to the highway from say hastings/burrard and vice-versa. Widening the highway won't solve that problem.

What really need to happen is for the west coast express gets turned into a proper train service along the lines of something like the thames link in london. This will probably happen at some point given that the infrastructure is already there and sprawl will create the demand.

I agree. Allocate a chunk of the spending money to bring about some form of usable public transport through the wider area.

Aviator Jul 24th 2010 6:06 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 8725477)
of course it will be better, alrhough I was surprised that it is only being upgraded to as far as Langley, they should take it out to the wack. As for hwy 1 it was bad years ago and i've been using it for 17 years. About 1996 ish was when they built the HOV lane which helped a little at the time. there have been no improvements since then.

Alan is right, the fact that vancouver has no hwy it is time consuming to get to the hwy as is the same for the southern communities. One thing i really like about north van is easy access to hwy

Time will tell.

dboy Jul 24th 2010 8:20 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 8725588)
Time will tell.

well, i don't see how it could be any worse??? It will be twice as big as it is now between Langley and Vancouver.

Not the answer to all our problems but an improvement. I will be commuting between north van and surrey and it will benefit me, that much I'm sure.

dboy Jul 24th 2010 8:25 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8725499)
I agree. Allocate a chunk of the spending money to bring about some form of usable public transport through the wider area.

there are plans to build the evergreen line which will extend skytrain from Lougheed mall through Port Moody, terminating at Coquitlam Centre

there are also long term plans for skytrain out to UBC and extension of the expo line further south into surrey. these are enormously expensive systems though.

Vancouver is pushing for a tram system to connect tourist areas such as granville island with china town, down through coal harbour and out to stanley park. they had and experimental line during the games and it was very popular. Vancouver seems determined to make it happen, with or without translink.

ExKiwilass Jul 25th 2010 12:11 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 
I'm a hwy skeptic too. The northeast needs more transit. I am really hoping the Evergreen Line gets built, and that this latest promise to build it isn't more smoke and mirrors to shut up the voters while they throw money at the hwy.

A bunch of my coworkers live out Ridge way, but they're only commuting to Poco, so that's not too bad. Some of them really want to move further in though. The impression I get is that people move to Maple Ridge because they don't have a lot of choice if they want to buy a place, not because they really really want to live there. There's no getting around how far away it is from the core. The WCE is great when it runs, but it only runs one way and at very set times.

ExKiwilass Jul 25th 2010 12:25 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8725444)
What really need to happen is for the west coast express gets turned into a proper train service along the lines of something like the thames link in london. This will probably happen at some point given that the infrastructure is already there and sprawl will create the demand.


Somebody correct me if I"m wrong, but i think the problem with extending the WCE times is that the WCE doesn't own the rails, CN Rail does, and they need to use them for freight. If true this is a big impediment to extending service.

It's a very popular service though - I come into the station in the mornings and see the train pick up passengers. it's crowded.

albert_ed Jun 8th 2011 4:13 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 
Hi

I'm considering a job offer in Surrey.

My other half works close to the Oakridge Skytrain Station, but could/would use a car.

Does anyone have a view on 3 questions:

1. Is there somewhere within 30-40mins of Surrey that is elevated enough to get a decent view of mountains (I need to at least see them!). Oh and throw in some pleasant trails/woods :D

2. Any ideas on who to track down a rental property through - need something for end of July. (3 beds/ parking etc)

3. Does anyone know what the commute time to Surrey from say Lynn Valley/ Deep Cove might be? I know it usually slows down going S on Hwy 1 after the Ironworkers.

Thanks for any suggestions/ info

Ed

JonboyE Jun 8th 2011 5:08 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by albert_ed (Post 9419453)
Hi

I'm considering a job offer in Surrey.

My other half works close to the Oakridge Skytrain Station, but could/would use a car.

Does anyone have a view on 3 questions:

1. Is there somewhere within 30-40mins of Surrey that is elevated enough to get a decent view of mountains (I need to at least see them!). Oh and throw in some pleasant trails/woods :D

South Surrey is an option. There is a ridge than runs along most of the US border and this extends into the Semiahmoo peninsular. On the north side of the ridge you get good views across to the North Shore Mountains. Fine for trails and near to open country.

In North Surrey some of the subdivisions around 160th street and 80th avenue have great mountain views. Tynehead park nearby has some trails and an off-leash area.

Walnut Grove or Fort Langley are also options but the drive to Oakridge is getting longer.

To be honest, there are plenty of places around the Lower Mainland where you get mountain views - it varies street by street. Richmond, for example, is as flat as a pancake but if you have the right house at the right location ...

You can also look at North Burnaby - there are some nice neighborhoods with views there as well. Some of the very best mountain views are from the West Side of Vancouver where you see the North Shore Mountains over English Bay. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ though.


2. Any ideas on who to track down a rental property through - need something for end of July. (3 beds/ parking etc)
There are surprisingly few rental agencies. Most people use Craig's List, Vancouver Sun classified or the local free papers. However, I wouldn't really recommend you pay anyone any money for a property you haven't seen - pictures are not always representative of reality and how do you know the person you are paying money to really is the landlord?.

If you want to look in the South Surrey area you could go to Hugh & McKinnon's website http://www.hughmckinnon.com/singlehome.html. They generally deal with high-end rentals but are an old established agency and I would not have any concerns about paying a deposit to them.


3. Does anyone know what the commute time to Surrey from say Lynn Valley/ Deep Cove might be? I know it usually slows down going S on Hwy 1 after the Ironworkers.

Thanks for any suggestions/ info

Ed
Pretty grim at the moment as Hwy 1 has a massive construction project that will last a couple of years. I don't have any idea what the driving time is like at the moment. If the Iron Worker's Bridge is flowing freely then, using alternate routes, it is about an hour but it depends where you start in North Vancouver and whereabouts in Surrey you need to get to. Its a big place.

Once Hwy 1 is completed, against the rush hour, I would guess about 30 minutes.

The problem with commuting from the North Shore is that there are only two bridges. In rush hour they are both busy but serviceable. However, you only need an accident on one of the bridges and everything grinds to a halt. OK if you have an understanding employer but not good if you work fixed shifts. Generally, you want as few bridges/tunnels as possible between home and work.

Steve_ Jun 8th 2011 5:52 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 
My friends from BC call it: "Maple Ditch".

albert_ed Jun 8th 2011 7:40 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9419607)
South Surrey is an option. There is a ridge than runs along most of the US border and this extends into the Semiahmoo peninsular. On the north side of the ridge you get good views across to the North Shore Mountains. Fine for trails and near to open country.

In North Surrey some of the subdivisions around 160th street and 80th avenue have great mountain views. Tynehead park nearby has some trails and an off-leash area.

Walnut Grove or Fort Langley are also options but the drive to Oakridge is getting longer.

To be honest, there are plenty of places around the Lower Mainland where you get mountain views - it varies street by street. Richmond, for example, is as flat as a pancake but if you have the right house at the right location ...

You can also look at North Burnaby - there are some nice neighborhoods with views there as well. Some of the very best mountain views are from the West Side of Vancouver where you see the North Shore Mountains over English Bay. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ though.



There are surprisingly few rental agencies. Most people use Craig's List, Vancouver Sun classified or the local free papers. However, I wouldn't really recommend you pay anyone any money for a property you haven't seen - pictures are not always representative of reality and how do you know the person you are paying money to really is the landlord?.

If you want to look in the South Surrey area you could go to Hugh & McKinnon's website http://www.hughmckinnon.com/singlehome.html. They generally deal with high-end rentals but are an old established agency and I would not have any concerns about paying a deposit to them.



Pretty grim at the moment as Hwy 1 has a massive construction project that will last a couple of years. I don't have any idea what the driving time is like at the moment. If the Iron Worker's Bridge is flowing freely then, using alternate routes, it is about an hour but it depends where you start in North Vancouver and whereabouts in Surrey you need to get to. Its a big place.

Once Hwy 1 is completed, against the rush hour, I would guess about 30 minutes.

The problem with commuting from the North Shore is that there are only two bridges. In rush hour they are both busy but serviceable. However, you only need an accident on one of the bridges and everything grinds to a halt. OK if you have an understanding employer but not good if you work fixed shifts. Generally, you want as few bridges/tunnels as possible between home and work.

Hi JonboyE

Thanks for such a great amount of detailed information. I'm quite curious to see what its like down at the ridge to the Semiahmoo peninsula, that sounds promising and certainly looks worth a visit. I took a look down Tsawwassen last weekend and White Rock which were interesting. I then took a drive up to Highway 1 and Maple Ridge which was a nightmare.

The job is around 84th and 152nd St.

Thanks again

Ed

JonboyE Jun 8th 2011 8:15 am

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by albert_ed (Post 9419911)
Hi JonboyE

Thanks for such a great amount of detailed information. I'm quite curious to see what its like down at the ridge to the Semiahmoo peninsula, that sounds promising and certainly looks worth a visit. I took a look down Tsawwassen last weekend and White Rock which were interesting. I then took a drive up to Highway 1 and Maple Ridge which was a nightmare.

The job is around 84th and 152nd St.

Thanks again

Ed

Then you drove over the ridge!

In this area your best chance of finding places with mountain views are between 24th and 32nd Avenues and west of 196th Street. There are a number of new subdivisions around 164th that are packed in on small lots but there are also older and more spacious places. Unfortunately it is not a cheap area.

From here is is an easy drive up 152nd to 84th. Oakridge Mall is about a 45 minute drive in the rush hour. Another option is to catch the commuter bus from the park and ride at exit 10 of Hwy 99. This stops at Bridgeport station where Oakridge is a short Skytrain ride away.

ducktastic Jun 8th 2011 12:44 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 
I totally forgot I started this thread, thank god I didn't end up in Maple Ridge.

Tangram Jun 8th 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by ducktastic (Post 9420509)
I totally forgot I started this thread, thank god I didn't end up in Maple Ridge.

:rofl:

Alan2005 Jun 8th 2011 1:29 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by ducktastic (Post 9420509)
I totally forgot I started this thread, thank god I didn't end up in Maple Ridge.

Oi. Piss off back to the uk.

acer rose Jun 8th 2011 2:53 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 
Look at Burnaby


Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9419607)

Pretty grim at the moment as Hwy 1 has a massive construction project that will last a couple of years. I don't have any idea what the driving time is like at the moment. If the Iron Worker's Bridge is flowing freely then, using alternate routes, it is about an hour but it depends where you start in North Vancouver and whereabouts in Surrey you need to get to. Its a big place.

Once Hwy 1 is completed, against the rush hour, I would guess about 30 minutes.

The problem with commuting from the North Shore is that there are only two bridges. In rush hour they are both busy but serviceable. However, you only need an accident on one of the bridges and everything grinds to a halt. OK if you have an understanding employer but not good if you work fixed shifts. Generally, you want as few bridges/tunnels as possible between home and work.

Prior to the construction work, 25-30 minutes form Grand Boulevard (N Van) to Guildford Town Centre, if you left before 7 am and you carpooled so could use the HOV lane.

Getting home was much worse. (I held the record in my office - 2h 15 min on the evening of the accident on the Port Mann while the Pattullo was shut and no HOV use as my carpool buddies were all off work.) Getting onto Hwy 1 from 152nd was usually painful (not sure if the new, "improved" highway and bridge will improve this) and the journey usually took at least 40 minutes, again carpooling and leaving before 4;30. A big concert or sporting event completely changes the picture (for the worse) in terms of getting through the Cassiar Connector.

AFAIK, the new Port Mann will be tolled - more cost on your commute to consider.

ducktastic Jun 10th 2011 11:57 pm

Re: Maple Ridge
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9420556)
Oi. Piss off back to the uk.

Don't mind if I do :p


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