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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Maple Leaf (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/)
-   -   Lest we forget... (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/lest-we-forget-639323/)

iaink Nov 6th 2009 7:45 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by dollface (Post 8077085)
Not true. it's voluntary, not forced, but given organisations like Brownies, Guides, Cubs etc honour vets as part of their remit, it is expected.
:confused::confused_smile:

sac_de_loup Nov 6th 2009 7:48 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by Jingle (Post 8077077)
I'm sorry, but I think that people who lay down their lives for their country should be honored.
Seems a bit daft to me. That country's not going to be much use to you when you're dead. If people thought these things through a bit more, we'd all be a lot better off.

dollface Nov 6th 2009 7:49 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8077091)
:confused::confused_smile:
Why the confusion? it is expected that they remember the lives lost just as it is expected that they attend remembrance day parades (i'm talking the Baden Powell contingent here ). Expected is not the same as forced. If however, you were off the opinion that your child should not pay those respects then they would hardly be kicked out of the organisations nor school.

Aviator Nov 6th 2009 7:51 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8076629)
Do allow me to point out that even mapquest doesn't know where St. Albert is. Consistent opinion on offer at somewhere near the Yard, though likely not in it.
Map quest does not know where many places are let alone how to get there :rofl:

dollface Nov 6th 2009 7:52 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by sac_de_loup (Post 8077097)
Seems a bit daft to me. That country's not going to be much use to you when you're dead. If people thought these things through a bit more, we'd all be a lot better off.
:rolleyes: they willingly lay down their lives for tits like you.

Jingle Nov 6th 2009 7:54 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by sac_de_loup (Post 8077097)
If people thought these things through a bit more, we'd all be a lot better off.
Hence my comment .....

Originally Posted by Jingle (Post 8077077)
What I don't understand is that if the saying behind our poppies (dating back to the end of WWI) is "Lest We Forget" ..... why the heck have we forgotten, again, again and again?

One would think, after 90 years (and more), that someone would have seen the repetitions of the overall pattern and understood what it all meant.
And I'm sure that those who did lay down their lives in the early wars did so in the hope that their children and those that came after them would have better lives. And for that they should be honored.

J

Oink Nov 6th 2009 7:54 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8076420)
It was indeed. So I did. Got back Tuesday.

I had my annual appraisal/arse-kicking. It was bad timing. Given the shit I caused in Washington the week before, my boss told me: "I fear lest you open your gob again in front of journalists".

On the other hand, my stroppy tongue may well see me heading off to California quite soon. To Santa Clara.
Lest we forget . . .

Aviator Nov 6th 2009 7:55 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by sac_de_loup (Post 8077053)
Someone told me right at the start of this thread to have some "respect". For whom and for what reason, I dunno.
Perhaps for yourself, so you don't make a complete arse of yourself, but perhaps that may not be possible as short term memory seems to be a challenge.

iaink Nov 6th 2009 7:56 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by dollface (Post 8077099)
Why the confusion? it is expected that they remember the lives lost just as it is expected that they attend remembrance day parades (i'm talking the Baden Powell contingent here ). Expected is not the same as forced. If however, you were off the opinion that your child should not pay those respects then they would hardly be kicked out of the organisations nor school.
Are you familiar with the concept of peer pressure?


I was "expected" to attend remembrance day things as a kid. Didnt really have the faintest idea what it was really all about back then, it was just a lot of standing around in the chilly november wind.


Now that I understand it more I am more than happy to stand around in whatever weather Canada throws at me for a couple of hours and play my horn as required.

Dont get me wrong, I think its important to involve the whole community, but education is the key element that seems to have been missing in my cub/scout experience (or maybe I was too busy playing footy to pay much attention:o)

dollface Nov 6th 2009 8:02 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8077117)
Are you familiar with the concept of peer pressure?


I was "expected" to attend remembrance day things as a kid. Didnt really have the faintest idea what it was really all about back then, it was just a lot of standing around in the chilly november wind.


Now that I understand it more I am more than happy to stand around in whatever weather Canada throws at me for a couple of hours and play my horn as required.

Dont get me wrong, I think its important to involve the whole community, but education is the key element that seems to have been missing in my cub/scout experience (or maybe I was too busy playing footy to pay much attention:o)
Funnily enough I am familiar with the meaning of peer pressure:rolleyes:. Perhaps education was not in your scout group/ school but it was always in mine, brownies, school and parents also played their roll in explaining "why we should do things".

You were too busy playing my boy!;):lol:

sac_de_loup Nov 6th 2009 9:03 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by dollface (Post 8077105)
:rolleyes: they willingly lay down their lives for tits like you.
More fool them. I'd have more respect for someone that managed to stay alive. Getting yourself killed is neither big nor clever.

dollface Nov 6th 2009 9:06 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by sac_de_loup (Post 8077269)
More fool them. I'd have more respect for someone that managed to stay alive. Getting yourself killed is neither big nor clever.
What planet are you on?

iaink Nov 6th 2009 9:27 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by dollface (Post 8077279)
What planet are you on?
The planet controversy... Try not to feed his more trolley posts.:sneaky:

dollface Nov 6th 2009 9:29 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8077338)
The planet controversy... Try not to feed his more trolley posts.:sneaky:

they're all trolley:lol:

iaink Nov 6th 2009 9:38 am
Re: Lest we forget...
 
Originally Posted by dollface (Post 8077343)
they're all trolley:lol:
I think there is a valid position in arguing that modern day professional soldiers are aware of the risks that they face and yet they sign up to do a job, therefore its just a workplace hazard. Arguing that all soldiers are just there cos they like to shoot others is going beyond that, pushing the boundaries of good taste and reason for sure, but is probably not breaking any rules here. Is it trolling, posting to provoke an outraged response? Its close, that's for sure.

Calling someone a tit cos you dont like their position on a subject however is bordering on abusive posting, which is against the rules;)


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