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Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 6790418)
Where do you get the idea that the term expatriate or expat refers only to temporary situations? :confused:
I just checked four on line dictionaries and none of them refer to anything temporary. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, just that in my perception an Expat is temporary, and the relocation is primarily related to work and is paid for by an employer. Conversely, an Emigrant chooses to permanently live in another country and perhaps take citizenship. Is an Expat and and Emigrant the same thing? Does an Emigrant ever stop being an Emigrant, and become an Immigrant or a Citizen instead? Can one simultaneously be a Citizen of Country A, an Emigrant, an Expatriate, an Immigrant and a Citizen of Country B?? (Sounds like a recipe for a large tax bill :lol:) I don't know, MMC just got me wondering, that's all. :rofl: |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 6790418)
Where do you get the idea that the term expatriate or expat refers only to temporary situations? :confused:
I just checked four on line dictionaries and none of them refer to anything temporary. I suppose if you extrapolate this, then once you adopt a new country you are at home and so no longer an expat?? Perhaps this is why Jings thinks of himself as an expat rather than an emigrant? |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 6790500)
I didn't check any dictionary definitions - that's why I put "(incorrect?)" in my opening sentence, Steve.
I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, just that in my perception an Expat is temporary, and the relocation is primarily related to work and is paid for by an employer. Conversely, an Emigrant chooses to permanently live in another country and perhaps take citizenship. Is an Expat and and Emigrant the same thing? Does an Emigrant ever stop being an Emigrant, and become an Immigrant or a Citizen instead? Can one simultaneously be a Citizen of Country A, an Emigrant, an Expatriate, an Immigrant and a Citizen of Country B?? (Sounds like a recipe for a large tax bill :lol:) I don't know, MMC just got me wondering, that's all. :rofl: My perception on the xpat thing is if you take the opposite ie re-patriate that means to restore to the country of origin /birth. So the word expatriate would by definition mean a person who is no longer at their place of birth or origin. |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by mandymoochops
(Post 6790521)
lol cheers!
My perception on the xpat thing is if you take the opposite ie re-patriate that means to restore to the country of origin /birth. So the word expatriate would by definition mean a person who is no longer at their place of birth or origin. If someone becomes a citizen of a new country, or even has permanent residence there, then surely that become their "home country"? |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by mandymoochops
(Post 6790521)
lol cheers!
My perception on the xpat thing is if you take the opposite ie re-patriate that means to restore to the country of origin /birth. So the word expatriate would by definition mean a person who is no longer at their place of birth or origin. |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 6790533)
Well, perhaps "-patriate" refers to a fatherland, or rather one's home, or home country.
If someone becomes a citizen of a new country, or even has permanent residence there, then surely that become their "home country"? |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 6790500)
Is an Expat and and Emigrant the same thing? Not necessarily one can be an expat like yourself (I think) but not an emigrant. In my case yes I am an emigrant and expat. Does an Emigrant ever stop being an Emigrant, and become an Immigrant or a Citizen instead? I would say that as far as the UK is concerned I will always be an emigrant, and as far as Canada is concerned I will always be an immigrant. I emigrated from England and immigrated to Canada, all on the same day.;) Can one simultaneously be a Citizen of Country A, an Emigrant, an Expatriate, an Immigrant and a Citizen of Country B?? (Sounds like a recipe for a large tax bill :lol:) I don't believe in my case that I am a citizen of the UK, but I am and always will be an emigrant and expatriate. I am a Canadian immigrant and citizen. |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 6790533)
Well, perhaps "-patriate" refers to a fatherland, or rather one's home, or home country.
If someone becomes a citizen of a new country, or even has permanent residence there, then surely that become their "home country"? It also can mean the point at which something came into existence. You could argue that if you were unhappy in England you came into existence spiritually (sorry Bazzz) when you moved to Canada. This is the "problem" with words. Everyone can rework a word or a sentence so in effect it is easy to justify anything meaning anything |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 6790533)
Well, perhaps "-patriate" refers to a fatherland, or rather one's home, or home country.
If someone becomes a citizen of a new country, or even has permanent residence there, then surely that become their "home country"? wearing invisible woman cloak again.... |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by fledermaus
(Post 6790596)
i said that.....
wearing invisible woman cloak again.... |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by fledermaus
(Post 6790512)
I think expat. can be either, whereas emigrating is more permanent. I dont think "expating" is a solely temporary thing, it denotes that someone is living in a country other than their own. So the British part of "British Expats" says where the people came from.
I suppose if you extrapolate this, then once you adopt a new country you are at home and so no longer an expat?? Perhaps this is why Jings thinks of himself as an expat rather than an emigrant? |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 6790627)
Extrapolate? Is that the immigrant Polish builders in the UK? :rofl:
one more polate than one really needs.;):rofl::rofl::rofl: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=polate |
Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
So...I will show my age. Emigrate (to leave one's home country for another) must come from the Latin Ä“migrÄre.....kind of self explanatory...no?:confused:
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Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
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Re: Immigrate or Emigrate
Originally Posted by pinkmcfarquhar
(Post 6791103)
.............my head hurts.............
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