dollface

Doesn't he mean (could be wrong) that for example a lot of the Scots originated from Ireland etc?

neilcumming

Yes they do:http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2013/11/9348/0
The White Paper was made public last november.The only difference now is the currency as Osbourne has thrown a spanner into that,although it still has to be voted on.
Some people here are getting slightly confused,the vote isnt for Salmond or the SNP its for independence.Alot of Labour politicans and supporters are voting yes. .

neilcumming

All my family and many of my friends still live there so just because I dont live there means I shoudnt care about them?

Shard

An example of how things might be done differently in an independent Scotland...?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...ydebank-family

Paul_Shepherd

As a fellow Brit do you really want this? is this its what its come to? quite ironic we live in Canada....most of North America was only very recently discovered when the act of union was agreed up on, and its been such a good union, why ruin that now.

montreal mike

i was in scotland last time in 1992

the subject of them going alone came up

I was then employed by an international multi-billion pound company, with thousands of employees worldwide, headquartered in Edinburgh and it was made quite clear to me that if this happened then the head office would move just south of the border, but not London

have the scots thought of this sort of scenario?

neilcumming

Yep.Its a union but a very one sided union.The UK politcal system is broken.It doesnt matter what you vote in Scotland at a general election it all comes done to what the middle and upper class in south England and parts of Midlands want to vote for ,tory or "new" Labour who should really be named new tory.I used to vote Labour but I learned long ago it was a waste of time .I lived in England for 11yrs and found out alot of people dont give a shit about Scotland in fact they think the scots and Scotland are a joke!We need to change it and I believe the only way to do that is with independence.

Shard

That is true, but a lot of people in England don't give a xxxx about anyone from the North, the South, London, Wales etc etc. And of course there are a lot if people in Scotland that not only don't give a xxxx about England but actually despise it. The point here is that you are basing your views about independence on entirely flawed and emotional logic. A similar point has been made upthread about the political process - plenty of voters in various parts of the country are unhappy with their Westminster representatives - but that's not a reason in itself to dismantle a successful union.

burks

I find it strange how Scottish people say that the union is one sided and that it doesn't matter who they vote for, elections are dictated by the south and the midlands. That would be the same as someone from Nebraska saying they want independence because the President is determined by Florida, California, New York and Texas.. Or that there is no point in voters in British Columbia voting because the result is almost a forgone conclusion before the polls even close in BC! The population determines Govt. and over 80% of the population lives in England.

The New Labour movement had a decent Scottish representation with Gordon Brown, Alistar Darling, Robin Cook among others.

How was it the Higher Education Act 2004 was passed again? Scottish MP's voting on a bill that didn't affect Scotland..

Novocastrian

+1. What next, independence for the ancient kingdom of Bernicia and Deira?

Scotland was united with England a mere 300 years ago, moreover at their request, whereas the above named kingdom, more recently known as Northumbria, was taken by force in the 7th century.

COCKNEYS OUT. Starting, of course, with Mike Ashley.

Edit: And while we're in the mood, let's encourage Albertan independence, after all, thanks to their consummate irresponsibility, we'll soon have a northern sea route from Ontario et al. to the West Coast.

Hawk13

Actually, it's been discussed before. BC, Alberta and Sask break away by themselves and screw the East. The mentality was that the west coast got very little compared to what it put in and Quebec and Ontario always got the lions share.

Novocastrian

Oh, really? Or, possibly, O'Riley.

Hawk13

I agree but sometimes the emotional response is the strongest one. Everyone can debate the pros and cons but no one has a crystal ball as to what will actually happen if the vote is YES.

If a union is so great, maybe BC should become the 51st state and link up to Alaska?

Novocastrian

If I may be so bold, you're talking balderdash.

Maybe the UK should quit the EU?

Get over it. Scotland isn't speshul, history moves on like it or not.

burks

I thought BC was already in a 'union' ... Canada. Or did I miss some something?