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Old Apr 26th 2016, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Shakyuk
Just for information my UK costs are:

Electricity:
Unit rate: 11.372p per kWh / $0.21
Standing charge 11.97p per day / $0.22

Gas:
Unit rate: 2.351p per kWh / $0.04
Standing charge: 13.82p per day / $0.25
Ontario, recent bill, cents per kWh:

On peak 17.5 cents
Mid peak 12.8
Off peak 8.3

Delivery and related charges 133.12. There's a note that this bill is debt retirement charge exempt (yee ha!). So, yes, electricity seems to be much cheaper in BC.

I didn't bring the gas bill but, since gas is charged by the litre, I suspect it wouldn't be easy to compare anyway.
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Old Apr 26th 2016, 12:52 pm
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Ontario, recent bill, cents per kWh:

On peak 17.5 cents
Mid peak 12.8
Off peak 8.3

Delivery and related charges 133.12. There's a note that this bill is debt retirement charge exempt (yee ha!). So, yes, electricity seems to be much cheaper in BC.

I didn't bring the gas bill but, since gas is charged by the litre, I suspect it wouldn't be easy to compare anyway.
Interesting that it isn't as cheap as reading online would have you believe!
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Interesting that it isn't as cheap as reading online would have you believe!
I had no idea anyone thought power cheap here. I don't but then I had a contract with Ontario Hydro for a good while.
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Old Apr 26th 2016, 7:18 pm
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In Calgary last month we used just under 800kWh's @ 4.3 c/kWh = $33.60 but then you had to add the Admin charge+Distribution charge+Transmission charge+Balancing pool allocation ($2 credit)+rate Riders + local access fee which in total added another $61 to the bill!
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Old Apr 26th 2016, 7:29 pm
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That's so cheap, my bill as always around $200 monthly even when We try to use less or stay off peak
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That's so cheap, my bill as always around $200 monthly even when We try to use less or stay off peak
One of the advantages of the recession in Alberta, the price of electricity has approximately halve'd in the last 18 months so even though the fixed costs have increased my electricity bill is about $30 a month cheaper than it used to be.

On my utilities bill the unexpectedly large cost is water and sewage. Usually the water and sewage costs almost as much as the electricity and gas.
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How many provinces have these admin, and other misc fees adding such large amounts to the bill?
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How many provinces have these admin, and other misc fees adding such large amounts to the bill?
Monthly service charge $20.78.
Water heater rental $6.36

The rest is power (10.42¢/kWh) plus HST.
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Crazy world we live in people, we have been trying harder to use power after 7pm this year for washer and dishwasher, then I read......

I quote:
"Ontarians consumed less electricity than expected over the recent milder winter," said a statement from the OEB.

"As a result of lower usage, Regulated Price Plan (RPP) prices did not recover the full cost of serving RPP customers. One of the main reasons prices are increasing in May is to recover this shortfall."

On the one hand we have the global warming squad saying use less power, when we do the Hydro people put the cost up, a lose lose situation IMO

Using the same analogy shouldn't gas (petrol) prices be going down? No low use, penalty, high use bonus there I guess !!!
Sure it's no surprise is it. Just like when people talk about electric cars costing buttons compared to finest grade petroleum. Nonsense. As soon as everyone is switched over to electric cars it'll magically cost you $50 to fill them with electricity too just like it costs you $50 for gas.
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debt retirement charge
I enjoy being told that I saved a dollar and change for DRC...but then the actual line item on the bill says zero. So yea. Thanks Guelph Hydro. (Yes the online bill is actually that blurry by default)

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Is this debt retirement thing debt hydro has or did the province add it to hydro to go towards general debt?

How do they justify such a high delivery charge?

In ON is there just 1 hydro company like in BC or is there different companies?
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Is this debt retirement thing debt hydro has or did the province add it to hydro to go towards general debt?

How do they justify such a high delivery charge?

In ON is there just 1 hydro company like in BC or is there different companies?
My understanding is "Ontario Hydro" (when it was "the company") had a load of debt back in ye olden days and it was then broken up but the debt carried on and has been tacked on to bills for god knows how long. It's been there since I arrived in 2010 and I'm sure it was in place long before that.

Different companies now. HydroOttawa, Guelph Hydro, Hydro One are the three I've had based on where I've lived. There are others.

Still think the "power" itself is produced by OPG but I could be wrong.
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Is this debt retirement thing debt hydro has or did the province add it to hydro to go towards general debt?

How do they justify such a high delivery charge?

In ON is there just 1 hydro company like in BC or is there different companies?
Ontario Hydro ran up the debt buying yacht sails for the President, building unsuccessful power stations and various other ways.

They have no need to justify anything.

There is one electricity wholesaler, Ontario Hydro, and in heavily populated areas local retailers; Toronto Hydro, Guelph Hydro, etc. The retailers do not compete but service individual areas.
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Ontario Hydro ran up the debt buying yacht sails for the President, building unsuccessful power stations and various other ways.

They have no need to justify anything.

There is one electricity wholesaler, Ontario Hydro, and in heavily populated areas local retailers; Toronto Hydro, Guelph Hydro, etc. The retailers do not compete but service individual areas.
When QC can run a hydro system far better than ON it's something to feel real shame about.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Is this debt retirement thing debt hydro has or did the province add it to hydro to go towards general debt?

How do they justify such a high delivery charge?

In ON is there just 1 hydro company like in BC or is there different companies?
Lol high delivery, I can only wish some one knock off $50 from my delivery service !! See attached !!

I keep telling the Mrs "plug the Teslers in after 7pm FFS"
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