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Novocastrian May 7th 2010 1:00 pm

Hear we go again....
 
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...-festival?bn=1

Merci encore une fois Stephen.

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Alan2005 May 7th 2010 1:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8550694)

I'm not really sure what to think of this. On one hand - his motivation is transparent (at least that's my opinion), but on the other if the festival can run itself without tax payers money then that is good thing for it to be able to do.

Does Toronto make money from Pride? I know Vancouver considers it an investment that attracts high spending poofs from around the world to the city. Not seen anything to either back this up or contradict it.

Novocastrian May 7th 2010 2:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8550736)
I'm not really sure what to think of this. On one hand - his motivation is transparent (at least that's my opinion), but on the other if the festival can run itself without tax payers money then that is good thing for it to be able to do.

Does Toronto make money from Pride? I know Vancouver considers it an investment that attracts high spending poofs from around the world to the city. Not seen anything to either back this up or contradict it.

Oh f***. I don't know. It's just plain enough that these assholes are bad for my health.

The4BellsLondon May 7th 2010 4:03 pm

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hmm - is it Jungian?

KeithHaring May 7th 2010 5:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8550736)
I'm not really sure what to think of this. On one hand - his motivation is transparent (at least that's my opinion), but on the other if the festival can run itself without tax payers money then that is good thing for it to be able to do.

Does Toronto make money from Pride? I know Vancouver considers it an investment that attracts high spending poofs from around the world to the city. Not seen anything to either back this up or contradict it.

It brings in millions for the local economy. I was surprised that it had funding at federal level before as it successfully gets sponsorship from TD...

Lord Vader May 8th 2010 12:57 pm

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The federal government should not be funding parades in Toronto. Toronto is a big boy that can fund their own parades.

from the article

'The Harper government is being labelled homophobic for refusing to fund Toronto’s gay pride festival this year."

Sure, the commie star at it again. Interesting that almost 2/3rds of the vote on the article page says no to funding.

Jingsamichty May 8th 2010 1:12 pm

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If Federal money is (was) being shelled out for this festival, would all applicants be equally eligible for a share of it? For example, would a neo-conservative Christian anti-gay group be able to apply for funding for their float to be entered into the Pride parade?

It's just that that American professor pastor fellow (you know, him with the nice big moustache, strange taste in personal assistants...) could take part in Pride while apparently be seen to be preaching against it.

Win, win - surely that's what tax-payers money is for?

KeithHaring May 8th 2010 2:08 pm

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Pride is labeled more as a 'diversity parade' in Toronto these days... in fact it's a little too straight for my liking.

Jingsamichty May 8th 2010 2:12 pm

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Originally Posted by KeithHaring (Post 8552389)
Pride is labeled more as a 'diversity parade' in Toronto these days... in fact it's a little too straight for my liking.

Tch!

"Give 'em an inch, and they want a mile..."

KeithHaring May 8th 2010 2:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8552396)
Tch!

"Give 'em an inch, and they want a mile..."

Shouldn't that be KM?

dbd33 May 8th 2010 2:57 pm

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Originally Posted by KeithHaring (Post 8552420)
Shouldn't that be KM?


There's no such thing as a metric penis. No one advertises an improbable number of uncut millimetres (not that I'd know how many dozen millimetres is probable anyway).

Novocastrian May 8th 2010 3:03 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8552448)
There's no such thing as a metric penis. No one advertises an improbable number of uncut millimetres (not that I'd know how many dozen millimetres is probable anyway).

Oh for heavens sake. Just multiply by 2.54 and then by 3 for the boasting.

Jingsamichty May 8th 2010 6:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8552457)
Oh for heavens sake. Just multiply by 2.54 and then by 3 for the boasting.

... and then round up to 5.

Lord Vader May 8th 2010 11:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8552685)
... and then round up to 5.

and divide by 2

fledermaus May 9th 2010 1:38 am

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then realise that you have pressed the wrong buttons on the calculator and decide to use a pencil and paper instead.

Oakvillian May 10th 2010 3:47 am

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8552309)
The federal government should not be funding parades in Toronto. Toronto is a big boy that can fund their own parades.

And yet a festival as big, profitable and widely known as the Calgary Stampede gets federal funding. But that's OK, because it's not full of pinko homos, but good ol' boys in big hats and plaid shirts.

What's sauce for the goose, it seems to me, should be sauce for the gander.

dbd33 May 10th 2010 3:54 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8555533)
But that's OK, because it's not full of pinko homos, but good ol' boys in big hats and plaid shirts.

It's not clear to me when that dichotomy developed but one can hardly expect the Harper government to condone homosexuality; that's not what they, er, stand for.

Alan2005 May 10th 2010 3:57 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8555533)
And yet a festival as big, profitable and widely known as the Calgary Stampede gets federal funding. But that's OK, because it's not full of pinko homos, but good ol' boys in big hats and plaid shirts.

What's sauce for the goose, it seems to me, should be sauce for the gander.

They probably think the gander has enough sauce already. Although the calgary stampede also sounds a bit brokeback if you ask me.

Jingsamichty May 10th 2010 4:08 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8555533)
But that's OK, because it's not full of pinko homos, but good ol' boys in big hats and plaid shirts.

Thanks for that. Now every time I close my eyes I'm seeing Vivienne Westwood's "naked cowboys" image.

Lord Vader May 10th 2010 4:16 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8555533)
And yet a festival as big, profitable and widely known as the Calgary Stampede gets federal funding. But that's OK, because it's not full of pinko homos, but good ol' boys in big hats and plaid shirts.

What's sauce for the goose, it seems to me, should be sauce for the gander.

I disagree that it is OK. I hope the feds cut funding to the stampede as well. These festival/parade/etc's are pefectly capable of running themselves. Your assumption that it is because one group is gay holds no wieght. It is simply an assumption based on nothing.

Oakvillian May 10th 2010 4:17 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8555555)
It's not clear to me when that dichotomy developed but one can hardly expect the Harper government to condone homosexuality; that's not what they, er, stand for.


Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8555565)
They probably think the gander has enough sauce already. Although the calgary stampede also sounds a bit brokeback if you ask me.

;) Perhaps I misspoke... I in no way intended to convey that there are no homosexuals at Stampede. If any LGBT people in Calgary have taken offence at my comments I apologise unreservedly and suggest they complain to Tony Clement. At least he still has his job - Diane Ablonczy was unceremoniously dumped out of Cabinet for failing to deny funding to Pride last year.

Oakvillian May 10th 2010 4:19 am

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8555612)
I disagree that it is OK. I hope the feds cut funding to the stampede as well. These festival/parade/etc's are pefectly capable of running themselves. Your assumption that it is because one group is gay holds no wieght. It is simply an assumption based on nothing.

But it is OK as far as this government is concerned - that's rather the point. I could understand if Clement's excuse (that they're cutting funding from big-city events in order to support a larger number of smaller events outside the main population centres) wasn't quite so transparently a load of complete bollocks.

Novocastrian May 10th 2010 10:54 am

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8555623)
But it is OK as far as this government is concerned - that's rather the point. I could understand if Clement's excuse (that they're cutting funding from big-city events in order to support a larger number of smaller events outside the main population centres) wasn't quite so transparently a load of complete bollocks.

For reference... http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/dsib-to...g/qq00175.html

Lord Vader May 10th 2010 2:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8555623)
But it is OK as far as this government is concerned - that's rather the point. I could understand if Clement's excuse (that they're cutting funding from big-city events in order to support a larger number of smaller events outside the main population centres) wasn't quite so transparently a load of complete bollocks.

But once again, prove that the cut in funding is related to being gay? All of those festivals in Novo's link should be very capable of running themselves without the feds support.

Novocastrian May 10th 2010 2:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 8556851)
But once again, prove that the cut in funding is related to being gay? All of those festivals in Novo's link should be very capable of running themselves without the feds support.

Prove that it's not.

What is the balance of probabilities? Given of course that the Harperists are unreconstructed homophobic religious nutjobs with not an iota of humanity in their collective conscience.

Lord Vader May 10th 2010 2:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8556858)
Prove that it's not.

What is the balance of probabilities? Given of course that the Harperists are unreconstructed homophobic religious nutjobs with not an iota of humanity in their collective conscience.

oh yes of course, I forgot that part.


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