BristolUK

I don't think so. Unless I'm mistaken your point appeared to be that asking why they felt a particular way might be useful. Mine was that it wouldn't.

All those people who 'celebrated' the vote they were in favour of who were out increasing all those hate crimes as a result...not a lot of sense was there.

Oink

That's rather a pejorative term, I think you mean the glorious and honorable proletariat?

JamesM

It's not a different point of view though is it- they are simply incorrect or ignorant. They voted Brexit to "speak their minds" and I don't have a problem speaking mine.

It's a total inability on their part to make the effort to go out and learn what the EU is. What it's real purpose is and what the long run benefits are.

I'm yet to have an argument from a Brexit voter presented to me that actually holds anything that is factually correct when examined fully.

The intellectual case for Brexit is non-existent.

People who voted for Brexit cling to notions that are dated and unsustainable.

1) A percentage of the population are hurting because of the lack of wage growth and therefore it was a protest vote against the establishment.

2) A percentage of the population don't want immigrants because they think it will put more money in the pot for them to claim with out working any harder. Half of these are full on racist. The rest mildly so and are simply lazy.

3) A percentage of the population think that the EU make all our laws and our government has no sovereign power. Yet now they are upset that the government may well have a final vote on what type of Brexit it is.

To your point I'm all about understanding which of the 3 categories they fall into. Then I can explain to them where they are incorrect. What they have done to ruin their lives further and move on. The "Hug A Hoody" thing will not drive any results unfortunately.

I don't want to go off tangent here. There are multiple threads around the forum.

Overall I think some people might be more likely to move back on the basis that Canada was not what they expected and the exchange rate is in their favour. We've also had numerous posters appear over the years who immigrated to Canada to get away from immigrants. They will be feeling they will have a Britain to go back to as somebody said up thread.

JamesM

It's a term that I became accustomed too during the riots of 2011.

Hope lies in the proles.

mrken30

I think wages are lower on the UK side of the pond, even more so with the pound falling.

Almost Canadian

About what?

I'd suggest that that is an assumption. Is there any evidence to suggest that those that voted to remain made a greater effort to go out and learn what the EU is, than those that voted to leave?

It has been in existence for some time now and I would suggest that those two items have changed significantly over time. For example, I trust you will accept that those two items will be different for those that are in the euro zone, to those that are not.

I doubt that it would be possible to sensibly argue that, whatever purpose and long run benefits you allege it has, they could be achieved, and likely have been achieved, by other groups of countries in ways that did not require an EU.

Here is one: Post Brexit, the UK will have absolute control over the selection process it wishes to implement for economic migrants to be entitled to lawfully come to the UK. I look forward to hearing your explanation as to how that is factually incorrect

Again, that is nothing more than speculation on your part.

bats

Well I'm just back from a week in England. Plenty of negative Nellies there, much them and us snobbery over how people voted in the referendum.
I'm glad to be back home but not pleased to read about Kellie whatever her name is supporting Trump and wanting to be Conservative party leader.
The world is going to hell in a bigoted handbasket.

Shard

Plenty to be negative about, TBH.

dave_j

I really don't understand this.

Whether you live in the UK or Canada, there isn't anyone dropping bombs on you, your country isn't involved in a civil war, nobody is invading your country, there are goods to be had in the supermarket, we don't live in tents because an earthquake or hurricane has destroyed your house, unemployment is low, the rule of law still operates, the sun still rises in the east.. etc etc.

So Trump has been elected, but he's only one man and times have changed since Hitler was elected in the 1930's and congress and the media exists to trim his sails.

So Brexit is on the horizon but nobody really knows how this will affect borders, britons or the world economy.

I get the impression that there are those amongst us whose glass is forever half empty and no amount of beer will fill it up.

Personally, my wine glass is quite full and is likely to remain so.

BristolUK

Now what's the name of that Peter Sellers movie.....

dave_j

I'm all right Jack?

BristolUK

morpeth

I think I will do that next weekend. This week early morning walk by the Wansbeck with all the Swans,

But moving back anyone will need to be prepared for the same question asked every day by someone " Did you move back because of Trump."

Shard

My glass is generally quite full too, but from time to time some morons knock it over.

scrubbedexpat091

My glass is mostly empty but it's always been mostly empty, and likely will never even be half full...