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Old Oct 12th 2017, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
It's not hard to believe that the famed Hollywood casting couch is real, but it is hard to believe how this guy was able to operate for so long, given how famous and powerful many of his 'colleagues' have become.
I think the police will find him with a self inflicted gun shot wound in the next few days.

Wife has left him, fired from his job, front page news of every paper, front page on every online news & social media site, and constant TV coverage. That's enough to drive anyone to suicide.
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I think the police will find him with a self inflicted gun shot wound in the next few days.

Wife has left him, fired from his job, front page news of every paper, front page on every online news & social media site, and constant TV coverage. That's enough to drive anyone to suicide.

Im sure all our hearts go out to him.

Just incase
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Old Oct 12th 2017, 5:49 pm
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Try this from Popbitch
Inches For Inches – Popbitch
I didn't know popbitch produced such insightful commentary. That was a really good article!
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Old Oct 12th 2017, 5:52 pm
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Why is anybody interested in this?
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Old Oct 12th 2017, 6:14 pm
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Why is anybody interested in this?
Changing social mores.
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Old Oct 12th 2017, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Danny B
I think the police will find him with a self inflicted gun shot wound in the next few days.

Wife has left him, fired from his job, front page news of every paper, front page on every online news & social media site, and constant TV coverage. That's enough to drive anyone to suicide.
I don't think so. Seems to have a Trump like defiance and narcissim. Obviously his wife didn't mean a great deal to him. He probably thinks he did little wrong.
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Changing social mores.
Some fat old disgusting perv lusting after impressionable and vulnerable young people? Sounds like a typical Tory party conference.
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Some fat old disgusting perv lusting after impressionable and vulnerable young people? Sounds like a typical Tory party conference.
Sounds like power in most walks of life.
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Old Oct 12th 2017, 7:12 pm
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That's enough to drive anyone to suicide.
Might not be too hard for someone of his wealth to "disappear"
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I wonder how many other Hollywood moguls' buttocks are clenching at the moment... guess we'll only know when their s**t hits the fan..
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Old Oct 13th 2017, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Again, I am not discrediting/belittling or playing down 'sexual assault'.
Yes, OK, apologies for my earlier statement on this, Jingsamichty.

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Interestingly, why is it only when successful actors like Angelina Jolie speak out that it gets taken seriously? Why do we give more credence to people in positions of strength? That is precisely why Weinstein and his ilk get away with despicable (perhaps criminal, I don't know yet) behaviour, because we as a society are generally a bit starstruck.
Agreed. Incidentally, I don't subscribe to this, but it's easy/easier perhaps to discredit an aspiring actor than names like Jolie.

See here, from NYT:

Mr. Weinstein’s expertise in media manipulation was evident after the model Ambra Battilana Gutierrez went to the police with her charge that Mr. Weinstein forced himself on her at his TriBeCa offices in 2015. “Role Play: ‘Grope’ gal asked for movie part,” screamed a front-page New York Post headline above a large photo of Ms. Gutierrez a few days later. (A spokesman for The Post did not respond with a comment.)

The tabloid cover served as a warning to anyone else who might have considered challenging Mr. Weinstein and others of his ilk. Luckily, it turns out that there were enough people in the media business who are not part of the racket. They’re the ones who finally brought the real Mr. Weinstein to light.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/b...T.nav=top-news
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Old Oct 13th 2017, 1:39 am
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In a criminal case the assailants' legal team is the State. NDA will not protect him in a criminal trial.

If you don't like how the criminal legal system works, what you do propose as an alternative, guilt by Twitter?

The issue I have with "dozens of credible accounts" is that that is what the media says until the matter comes to trial. When the accounts are then demonstrated to be nothing like as clear cut as they had reported, the journalists then turn upon the lawyers and blame them for "twisting" things.

If he did this, I have no issue with him receiving exactly what he deserves. Unlike some, I will leave it for others to determine his guilt. Those that have read all the evidence, listened to the witnesses and who have found the facts.
I never said that I don't like how the legal system works - I said it is NOT INFALLIBLE. Big difference. Please don't twist my words.

Facing Down the Network That Protected Harvey Weinstein https://nyti.ms/2kJEYcI

Police in New York and London Look Into Assault Allegations Against Weinstein https://nyti.ms/2z3refe
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Old Oct 13th 2017, 1:40 am
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Originally Posted by sharkus
I've read a few things about this, but haven't seen anything mentioning why it's all suddenly coming up right now.
Plenty and plenty of articles on this all over the web i.e. why it is coming out now and why it didn't earlier. The NYT article posted above shows how many journalists tried to nail this story and failed for example.
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Old Oct 13th 2017, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Basically, there are thousands of actors looking for every part that's available, so the producers have a huge amount of power in choosing who gets to become a star. When I worked in movies in the UK, there was a pretty widespread opinion that most men who went into producing did it so they could shag a better class of women/men/goats than they were used to.

All that power goes to some people's heads.
I read this interview yesterday with Tom Hanks and it speaks to this too, Mark:

[B]So now that we’re on the subject of screaming and vulgarities, I segue into the Harvey Weinstein scandal. Talk about a Bonfire of the Vanities, Sherman.

“I’ve never worked with Harvey,” Mr. Hanks says, after a long pause. “But, aah, it all just sort of fits, doesn’t it?”

Why did Hollywood help shelter him, if everyone knew about the decades of abusive behavior?

<<<SNIP>>>

Hollywood’s Most Decent Fella on Weinstein, Trump and History https://nyti.ms/2kFEqEx

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Originally Posted by Danny B
I think the police will find him with a self inflicted gun shot wound in the next few days.

Wife has left him, fired from his job, front page news of every paper, front page on every online news & social media site, and constant TV coverage. That's enough to drive anyone to suicide.
His daughter called the police to say her father was suicidal but he's overseas now.

I know I know FAR too much on this topic. *bangs head on wall*
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