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BristolUK Aug 21st 2017 12:38 pm

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Is Major Briggs Judy?

Major Garland Briggs.

We know now that Gordon Cole is also the name of a character in the movie Sunset Boulevard.

Perhaps good Coop will click his heels and say "There's no place like home." :rofl:

BristolUK Aug 22nd 2017 5:20 am

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There's a TV series called Psych. I can't believe it's any good.

But season 5, episode 12 is Dual Spires. No prizes for guessing.

It's highly enjoyable and includes several Twin Peaks cast members.

DeanN Aug 23rd 2017 8:47 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12321649)
Is Major Briggs Judy?

Major Garland Briggs.

We know now that Gordon Cole is also the name of a character in the movie Sunset Boulevard.

Perhaps good Coop will click his heels and say "There's no place like home." :rofl:

Sunset Boulevard has long been cited by Lynch as one of his favourite films, and there are plenty of references / similarities to it in his work (Mulholland Dr. in particular, not least the fact that both films are named for streets in Lost Angeles)

As for Judy... according to Fire Walk With Me co-writer Robert Engels, one early version of the plot had Judy turn out to be the sister of Josie Packard, last seen 'trapped' inside a doorknob in the Great Northern, and who had something to do with Philip Jeffries' sojourn to Buenos Aires. Seems unlikely this will be the case now, particularly as the actress who played Josie, Joan Chen, isn't on the cast list, but you never know. In a weird twist, Chen actually wrote David Lynch a public letter earlier this year – in character, no less – musing on what Josie might have been doing these past decades. More on that here.

For what it's worth I've loved every baffling minute of the new show and it has surpassed my expectations in every way. Sadly there's only three more hours of it left.

BristolUK Aug 23rd 2017 9:52 am

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Originally Posted by DeanN (Post 12323047)
For what it's worth I've loved every baffling minute of the new show and it has surpassed my expectations in every way. Sadly there's only three more hours of it left.

I'm not worried about so little left. I re-watched the originals prior to the return and then many of them again when my stepdaughter got into it.

So the moment it's over I shall be watching again with her. Reading the Guardian blog and similar on the AV Club it's amazing what you either miss or don't see the relevance of. Mind you some things people "see" I played back several times and I saw nothing. Something about Ed's reflection in the window...they said it looked weird but I didn't even see one. And did the customers in the diner all suddenly change? I'll watch out for that in the rerun in a couple of weeks.

I don't know if it's age or being out of the habit of watching a weekly serial but continuity, new and/or minor characters popping up and the strange theories advanced on other blogs all add to the bafflement. But add to the enjoyment too.

There was one episode I didn't like. I found myself sighing and saying "come on, get on with it" and it wasn't anything to do with those extended scenes like the guy sweeping in the bar. Those were hilarious.

bats Aug 27th 2017 2:52 pm

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he is awake!

BristolUK Aug 28th 2017 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12325692)
Spoiler:
he is awake!

Spoiler...I hadn't seen it until this afternoon.


Glorious

https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-c...ea-300x150.jpg

BristolUK Aug 28th 2017 10:37 am

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Did you
Spoiler:
cheer?
:lol:

Double episode to finish next week.

bats Aug 28th 2017 10:41 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12326340)
Did you
Spoiler:
cheer?
:lol:

Double episode to finish next week.

I did, it was magnificent. Sorry about the spoiler but we knew he was going to wake up.

BristolUK Aug 28th 2017 10:57 am

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Mr Jackpots


:lol:

DeanN Aug 28th 2017 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12325692)
he is awake!

Nice nod to impatient fans when MIKE / the One Armed Man's first reaction was just: "Finally".

And how glorious that moment was. One of the most emotionally satisfying things I've ever seen, and it was played perfectly by Kyle MacLachlan. That moment when he turns to Bushnell and says, "I am the FBI" was just perfect (although line of the night has to go to Rodney Mitchum who shrugs off the Tarantino-esque gunfight on a suburban Vegas street with the observation, "people are under a lot of stress").

Anyway, the return of Dale Cooper shows the mastery Lynch and Frost have of what they're doing. Imagine Coop had re-emerged after just an episode or two bumbling around in the life of Dougie Jones. It wouldn't have had nearly the same impact as it did after all this time we spent with the character. And his scenes with Janey-E and Sonny Jim were heartbreaking... although i suspect his request for MIKE to make another tulpa of him means that the family won't be without a father for long.

Add that truly wonderful moment to the Diane twist (didn't see that coming, and where / what is the real Diane?), Mr C confirmed as (now-dead) Richard Horne's father, and the truly shocking ending with Audrey in some kind of.... other place? institution? and it all added up to being among the best episodes of the entire season, up there with #3 and #8. This show is so superior to anything else on the TV that it defies belief.

I hope somebody ends up putting on a showing of the entire season at a cinema or someplace. In 2010 the Battersea Arts Centre in London did this with the original two seasons, as part of a weekend-long Lynchian love-in. They screened all 29 episodes from 12pm Saturday through 12pm Sunday. I made it as far as Ep15 and the reveal of Laura Palmer's killer.

BristolUK Aug 28th 2017 11:56 pm

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I see someone else has been reading the various theories on other blogs then. :rofl:

The Guardian reviewers have been quite poor, especially the guy doing it for the first few episodes before they changed him, as many commenters were swift to point out.

DeanN Aug 29th 2017 12:57 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12326700)
I see someone else has been reading the various theories on other blogs then. :rofl:

The Guardian reviewers have been quite poor, especially the guy doing it for the first few episodes before they changed him, as many commenters were swift to point out.

I've read some (agreed, the Guardian one by Stuart Jeffries was awful) but some of the most interesting discussion I've heard has been on a Twin Peaks podcast produced by Entertainment Weekly

I'm not usually so obsessive about TV shows but Peaks has always had a special meaning for me – the first time I used the internet (c. 1995) was to visit early TP fan sites, and a teenage obsession with David Lynch's work was one of the reasons I ended up going to film school.

BristolUK Aug 29th 2017 1:08 am

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Originally Posted by DeanN (Post 12326748)
I'm not usually so obsessive about TV shows but Peaks has always had a special meaning for me...

I've never had a kitchen clock and a key fob for any other TV shows although I did have a little Dalek and always wanted a Man from Uncle briefcase. :lol:

Film school...that must be worth it if only to be able to put a name to certain techniques/shots etc

BristolUK Aug 29th 2017 9:54 am

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From the guardian comments


enter the coordinates 48 55' 14.2" -117 16' 59.56" from this episode in google maps and you will notice an interesting location just slightly to the north west :)
Zoom out a couple of times

DeanN Sep 1st 2017 10:52 am

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Great article in the Guardian about the show as we round on the finale.... the investigation of the links between Dougie Jones and Gregor Samsa from Kafka's Metamorphosis are most interesting. It almost, almost makes up for the dismal early episode recaps by Stuart Heritage.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...with-our-times

DeanN Sep 4th 2017 1:10 am

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Well, that all ended pretty much as predicted.

BristolUK Sep 4th 2017 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by DeanN (Post 12330911)
Well, that all ended pretty much as predicted.

Did it? I wasn't expecting all loose ends tied up but
Spoiler:
I expected something that might at least be a little more satisfying than just Dougie getting home.

bats Sep 4th 2017 4:47 am

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Cheated, I feel cheatedd

BristolUK Sep 4th 2017 5:36 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12331070)
Cheated, I feel cheatedd

It does feel as if we've been led on a wild goose chase.

I've been looking forward to watching it all again, but without a week between episodes, with my stepdaughter who I got into the originals just prior to this.

I'm not sure I can do that to her now, knowing that after 17 hours of weird but wonderful TV she'll feel let down after weird and wtf.

DeanN Sep 4th 2017 5:52 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12330937)
Did it? I wasn't expecting all loose ends tied up but ....

There was also the Ed & Norma happy ending from last week. And really the first half of episode 17 did clear up the major plot arc of the season. For Lynch (certainly in his post-1992 films, the Straight Story aside) that's an uncommonly high level of closure.

I thought that the ending was great, and perfect for the series. Beguiling and baffling, and I can see why a lot of viewers aren't happy, but it worked for me, and it was delivered with such confidence. Packed in enough questions to keep us all talking and wondering for another 25 years. A finale to launch a thousand theories.

bats Sep 4th 2017 7:36 am

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I enjoyed watching it for sure but it's frustrating having read an interview with Kyle Maclaughlin where he said there would be answers.

BristolUK Sep 4th 2017 10:58 am

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Unanswered/Confusing:

Spoiler:
What's the situation with Audrey?

Was that Billy in the cells? If not, who?

If Coop and Diane were lovers, how come he was seeing Annie? And wouldn't that have been a better excuse for knocking back Audrey?

Richard/Linda?

When Coop calls on Laura/Carrie and says he's the FBI, she asks have you found him yet through the closed door. Found who? Has she reported the dead guy as being dead but nobody had turned up yet? Had they gone looking for the person she wanted found (or not, perhaps there wasn't one) but not bothered about the crime?

Even in a parallel universe (for want of better term), would Coop ignore the dead guy? But he wouldn't necessarily think he was in a parallel universe since he was going to "take Laura home" within that universe anyway.

How did he know about the other waitress and that it would be Laura/Carrie? Something to do with what Laura whispered to him?

If he was supposed to be preventing Laura being killed but she got away - not that she was trying - maybe she made her meeting anyway. But then her body disappeared as if she had been saved.

Do people get transported to other universes every time they travel down that road?

Who was Candie? The one who had nowhere else to go?

As many people have said in the debates, part 17 was closer to an end with part 18 being the start of a new storyline.


BristolUK Sep 4th 2017 11:20 am

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Also
Spoiler:
we heard "Laura" being called from the house. I thought it was Leland's voice but everyone else thinks Sarah.

What was the situation with Sarah anyway. At what point did she change to that thing?

Did Carrie hear Laura being called like we did, because she seemed to react to it just before she screamed.

BristolUK Sep 5th 2017 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12331166)
...it's frustrating having read an interview with Kyle Maclaughlin where he said there would be answers.

It was probably 'Bad' Kyle though. :rofl:

BristolUK Sep 8th 2017 1:32 am

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I just heard Kyle MacLachlan interviewed on CBC Radio's 'q'

"What year is this?" the interviewer said. So what year is it?

KM "I can't tell you that...I'd have to kill you."

An old line but does that mean he's in the dark just like the rest of us? Prolonging the mystery? Or is there, perhaps, a reason not to give anything away.

There's probably a podcast of the interview available and a repeat of 'q' tonight.


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