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Old Dec 7th 2016, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Families could pay up to $420 more for food in 2017, report finds - Business - CBC News
Funny thing, this is from the CBC website and it mentions a variety of causes including -

On CBC radio yesterday they were using "mostly" to describe this.


I think the last year or so has seen significant increases but I find there are still a few things that we pay the same for as when we moved here 11 years ago to help make up for it.
They should just cut back on cheese.
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Originally Posted by bats
They should just cut back on cheese.
Funny (haha) you should mention that: What used to be jumbo block of basic cheese at a very enticing price is now the same price but actual QUANTITY (by weight) has been reduced by nearly 50%. Same packaging .
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
I imagine we all heard the news report that said we can expect to pay about $400 extra per year on groceries.

It doesn't seem that dramatic, for lead headline news to be honest - although it obviously makes a difference for those at welfare type levels.
It is dramatic Bristol especially when adding it to everything else that increase to total more than any increase folks have in income

it affects all of us, doesn't matter what our diets are & there isn't anything any of us can do about it because government & big business are all in it together.

So tighten your belts, cut back on the 'eating out & takeaways', no more posh cuts of meat (prime ribs gone), cut back on nuts, cereals, cheese, dairy & those fruit and veggies - after all some of you are likely overweight, BP & Cholesterol higher than it should be, so cut back at least 300 calories/day & do not buy cookies, candy, potato chips, soda pop, beer, wine or liquor ... OMG we couldn't do that

You also need to be more green, lower the thermostat, don't use the AC (if you have it), walk more.

Put off the holidays, buying the latest toys, replacement gadgets or consider that replacement vehicle

If you figure the grocery bill next year will increase $400/yr ($35/mth) per person & should you not want to change anything in the grocery basket - wouldn't it be easy to find $35/mth from other things that you spend on?

Don't get me going on utility bills or property taxes, because those will increase faster than the Grocery bill for sure.



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Groceries going up is bad news, at this rate, may just unplug the fridge....

Food is something we don't buy much of these days.

We have cut back everywhere possible but rent and other costs rise and eat up the small cut backs resulting in being in the same boat with no real net benefit.

We got rid of the cell phone for example so $25/month less there, however because of cold weather we are getting now and even with the thermostat set at 65F which is cold and not a comfortable indoor temp, the electric bill for this month is expected to to be $30-$35 higher vs last month, so the savings from the phone goes to hydro.

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It is dramatic Bristol especially when adding it to everything else that increase to total more than any increase folks have in income
But then the 'story' isn't about a price increase added to other price increases, it's just the one increase.

If they'd said "more misery heaped upon families" or something then I'd not have picked up on it.

$35 a month. That's really only dramatic if you're struggling already or that's your spare cash gone.

I've been close to that and worse for at least half my time in Canada and in all honesty it would have made little difference to our quality of life with our ingrained habit of shopping wisely and flexibly.

If you figure the grocery bill next year will increase $400/yr ($35/mth) per person
Families, I believe. Not per person.
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For those interested, here's a link to the full report that news article (thanks for the posting about it Bristol) was based on/quoting:
https://www.dal.ca/faculty/managemen...ce-report.html

I'm not sure whether N2O is being facetious, sarcastic, or sincerely concerned in his latest post. So I'll not respond (yet).
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Originally Posted by BristolUK

Families, I believe. Not per person.
I believe you are correct.
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I'm not sure whether N2O is being facetious, sarcastic, or sincerely concerned in his latest post. So I'll not respond (yet).
sure, why not respond to this

Am I seriously concerned when it affects me & mine, as well as see how it affects others - so you decide

Wife & I are seniors. Across 12 months our total combined Government hand outs in 2016 increased by a total of $108 for the year - $9/mth combined or $4.50/mth for each of us

Our fixed cost/expenses (things we need, have to use & pay for before anything else) - hydro, gas, water & property tax combined for 2016 increased $776/year ($64.67/mth) over 2015. Property insurance remained the same year over year

Add to the expenses, groceries, Healthcare necessities (dental/medical/prescriptions that are not covered) & whatever else you can think of.

Do we need phones or internet (likely not), TV is one free thing we have (OTA), could we do without a vehicle & all associated expenses & whatever else - sure we can, then again we could also live off the grid

Do we need to be concerned or not about all of the other costs or expenses - go figure the simple maths?

How do we or other seniors or those on low income to expenses manage, well thats a discussion for another time.


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You also need to be more green, lower the thermostat, don't use the AC (if you have it), walk more.
Yes, but in Ontario if you cut down on hydro consumption then the powers that be at Queens Park and Hydro 1 will increase the price per kwh to recoup the decline in demand on the provincial grid as people changed their ways as was suggested by the provincial government.
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Yes, but in Ontario if you cut down on hydro consumption then the powers that be at Queens Park and Hydro 1 will increase the price per kwh to recoup the decline in demand on the provincial grid as people changed their ways as was suggested by the provincial government.
sounds like the water company where my dad is in California. Cut back use. We need to conserve and people did, and yes water needs to be conserved, but due to the conservation efforts revenue dropped, so prices had to rise to offset the lost revenue.
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I am absolutely ruthless when I go grocery shopping. I go to the The Bulk Barn for non-perishables such as rolled oats and brown sugar and stock up there on the day of the week when there's a discount for seniors. At Superstore,I max out on real bargains and buy the limit when, for example, unsweetened juice (not from concentrate) is less than $1 each with a limit of 6. Sometimes bargains are right on the bottom or top shelves where most people don't look. I avoid things where you have to buy in a group of two or three to get some small discount. Prepackaged and precooked stuff is a waste of money. It's a lot cheaper to buy the basics and cook them yourself. Watch for big bags of misshapen apples - nothing wrong with them and a lot cheaper than any other fruit.
Other things that are bad buys: produce marked down because it's starting to go rotten; packages of prepared salad greens (they're usually bits salvaged from things starting to go bad); anything that seems to be bargain but actually isn't when you check it by unit pricing (how much per hundred grams, per pound etc.); medium sized eggs (weigh and compare); most baked goods -expensive globs of sugar and fat.
Watch out for days when the store is bringing in more stock and is trying to clear its shelves and offering bargains. Just ask when the trucks usually arrive and time your shopping accordingly.
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Shopping trip to Sobeys yesterday. No products reduced because best before date is imminent.
Dozen 2L bottles of Pepsi
Popcorn
Bacon
Cereal
Cook-in sauces: curry x1, pasta x2
Crisps
Crispbread packs
Dried pasta packs
5 choc bars
5 'interesting' microwave lunches (smart ones)
Frozen fries
Various fresh fruit and veg
Huge joint of pork to split into two
Lamb - leg and chops
Yogurt
4 cakes
Toothpaste
Cost including tax $130.74
Savings $74.15. 37%
The only full price items were crisps, yogurt 4x fruit 1 x Veg and toothpaste.

Also this week from more local shops, 10lb spuds $2.99; 2L milk $3.20; D'Italiano loaves $2 each; Campbells Chunky tins $1.88; Mushrooms 1.97; 2lb carrots/onions 99c each pack.

This does not represent a week's groceries
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Shopping trip to Sobeys yesterday. No products reduced because best before date is imminent.
Dozen 2L bottles of Pepsi
Popcorn
Bacon
Cereal
Cook-in sauces: curry x1, pasta x2
Crisps
Crispbread packs
Dried pasta packs
5 choc bars
5 'interesting' microwave lunches (smart ones)
Frozen fries
Various fresh fruit and veg
Huge joint of pork to split into two
Lamb - leg and chops
Yogurt
4 cakes
Toothpaste
Cost including tax $130.74
Savings $74.15. 37%
The only full price items were crisps, yogurt 4x fruit 1 x Veg and toothpaste.

Also this week from more local shops, 10lb spuds $2.99; 2L milk $3.20; D'Italiano loaves $2 each; Campbells Chunky tins $1.88; Mushrooms 1.97; 2lb carrots/onions 99c each pack.

This does not represent a week's groceries
Do how did you get savings then? Or was there a typo? No products reduced?

is Friday a good day for reductions or did you just strike lucky?

At the moment I can't be arsed with much cooking and am not inspired with ant cheep eats meal ideas
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Shopping trip to Sobeys yesterday. No products reduced because best before date is imminent.
Dozen 2L bottles of Pepsi
Popcorn
Bacon
Cereal
Cook-in sauces: curry x1, pasta x2
Crisps
Crispbread packs
Dried pasta packs
5 choc bars
5 'interesting' microwave lunches (smart ones)
Frozen fries
Various fresh fruit and veg
Huge joint of pork to split into two
Lamb - leg and chops
Yogurt
4 cakes
Toothpaste
Cost including tax $130.74
Savings $74.15. 37%
The only full price items were crisps, yogurt 4x fruit 1 x Veg and toothpaste.

Also this week from more local shops, 10lb spuds $2.99; 2L milk $3.20; D'Italiano loaves $2 each; Campbells Chunky tins $1.88; Mushrooms 1.97; 2lb carrots/onions 99c each pack.

This does not represent a week's groceries
I otoh went to Costco, less than $400. Then to Loblaws, $117. I didn't look at the price of things because I'm going to buy them anyway.
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Do how did you get savings then? Or was there a typo? No products reduced?
"No products reduced because best before date is imminent."

Aside from the ones mentioned as full price they were all reduced, just not from being close to the date.

They were the usual offers listed in the flyer, plus one or two 'this store only' surprises like the lamb or just surprises.
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