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London Mike Jul 3rd 2011 4:30 pm

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9470996)
I don't think they are green there anyway. Anywhere that is reliant on ferries to import everything can't really claim that.

The way I see it is that Canada is green only when compared to the US. And as this is the comparison that Canadians like to make they think they are environmentally friendly.

Echo what Alan says here, though I wonder whether the US is worse. Rewind the clock back to Copenhagen and you'll find that the US had a better engagement with that conference than Canada.

redmoose Jul 3rd 2011 8:21 pm

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 9472380)
We cant entirely blame governments for their failure to clean up the planet, we are all to blame.

We all demand cheap energy and in order to satisfy our needs we turn a blind eye to how it is provided as long as it is cheap and readily available.

So if you want to find a green place to live stay put and start by cleaning up your own space.

I partly agree with this but one of the reasons I am moving is that modern life as we know it is particularly unsustainable up here in the Northwest Territories. The only way to live a low impact life in this part of the world would be to live in a log cabin and eat fish and bears. My wife is reluctant to embrace that lifestyle for some bizarre reason.

The part of your comment I disagree with though is that sometimes it's not possible to "clean up your own space". As I mentioned in my original post, I live downstream from a major source of nasty pollutants (allegedly of course) over which I have no control. My pitiful efforts at green living feel pretty worthless when our water is being poisoned (allegedly of course).

mandymoochops Jul 4th 2011 1:37 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by redmoose (Post 9473838)
I partly agree with this but one of the reasons I am moving is that modern life as we know it is particularly unsustainable up here in the Northwest Territories. The only way to live a low impact life in this part of the world would be to live in a log cabin and eat fish and bears. My wife is reluctant to embrace that lifestyle for some bizarre reason.

The part of your comment I disagree with though is that sometimes it's not possible to "clean up your own space". As I mentioned in my original post, I live downstream from a major source of nasty pollutants (allegedly of course) over which I have no control. My pitiful efforts at green living feel pretty worthless when our water is being poisoned (allegedly of course).

Thats the problem right there (please don't take this a an insult because I for one am about as far from green as it's possible to get) - unless you are a full on member of the "crochet'd canoe" brigade - then living a green life proper is nigh on impossible.

Some try it and find it so difficult due to the conveniences they have known before - that they go back to more modern living whilst giving themselves a pat on the back for attempting to live greenly.

dbd33 Jul 4th 2011 3:51 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 9474349)
Some try it and find it so difficult due to the conveniences they have known before - that they go back to more modern living whilst giving themselves a pat on the back for attempting to live greenly.

I suppose it depends what you mean by "live greenly". If the objective is to reduce your impact on the planet then city living is the way to do it. Country living is all about the use of engines of one kind or another.

Gremmie Jul 4th 2011 6:57 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9474564)
I suppose it depends what you mean by "live greenly". If the objective is to reduce your impact on the planet then city living is the way to do it. Country living is all about the use of engines of one kind or another.

If we all just did a little bit it would help, ie, dont use drive ins, park your car turn of the engine and get of your lazy butts and walk to get your crappy Tims. If Canada banned all drive ins it would save millions of liters daily.

Auld Yin Jul 4th 2011 7:44 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9474869)
If we all just did a little bit it would help, ie, dont use drive ins, park your car turn of the engine and get of your lazy butts and walk to get your crappy Tims. If Canada banned all drive ins it would save millions of liters daily.

In NA a drive-in is for movies, Timmies have drive-thrus. You have about as much chance of that happening as flapping your arms and flying.

el_richo Jul 4th 2011 7:53 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 
Those who like to get closer to nature by "glamping" in their RV's and trailers are pollutants.

Packaging for most items (food, electronics, furniture....) is terrible. Packaging within packaging within....such a waste.

Urban sprawl breeds waste and pollutants and is ****ing ugly

Spending $B's on increasing road infrastructure to allow higher vehicle usage instead of targeting more effective public transportation = bad

Large capacity engined everyday commuter vehicles = pollutants

I'd also say anybody immigrating into Canada is not helping with the green aspect either. More people = more housing = more road network = more... Therefore, all "green" immigrants are hypocrites :thumbup:

iaink Jul 4th 2011 8:14 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 
Green isnt a place, its a code of personal behaviour isnt it?

I suppose things like recycling facilities and a choice of energy options helps, but its what you do that counts, not where you are.

I suppose you could fool yourself that you are living green by moving to some pristine wilderness, but if you drive a 4x4 and have to burn 2000 liters of heating oil a year to keep warm, and all your food has to be flown in, then its not all that green.


On the other hand if you stick to local produce and burn wood from sustainable sources instead then maybe its greener. But then that applies to living anywhere I guess.

Gremmie Jul 4th 2011 8:26 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 9474931)
In NA a drive-in is for movies, Timmies have drive-thrus. You have about as much chance of that happening as flapping your arms and flying.

Please excuse my ignorance:o:o as I dont use either Tims nor drive thrus:unsure:
Infact when my wife drove into a drive thingy full of cars I got out and went inside, orderd just what I wanted went back out side ,ate it before wifey got served. She got really pissed at me, but now she stops and gets out aswell.:thumbup:

CanadaJimmy Jul 4th 2011 11:23 am

Re: "Greenest" part of Canada
 

Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9474976)
Please excuse my ignorance:o:o as I dont use either Tims nor drive thrus:unsure:
Infact when my wife drove into a drive thingy full of cars I got out and went inside, orderd just what I wanted went back out side ,ate it before wifey got served. She got really pissed at me, but now she stops and gets out aswell.:thumbup:

Hahaha, I'll have to try that sometime, though imagine the girlfriend would have a similar unimpressed reaction :lol:


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