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Agreed, as with so much of Trump, nothing is seen in action yet. The worrying part is not Trump who is just the loudmouth, i am more concerned with the people like Stephen Bannon and the advisors advising him, most of whom are ultra right-wing.

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I'm not surprised.

Trump might look, from the point of view of a comfortable liberal, like a loose cannon and a renegade.. but from the point of view of someone who isn't comfortable and who's witnessed and continues to witness the political and wealthy classes feathering their nests, often legally questionable, he represents a straw they are happy to grasp. Like he said, 'What the hell have you got to lose'.

What the establishment, including the mainstream media, have failed to grasp is that the more they try to highlight his perceived faults, the more his core support will stand by him. Trump understands this and deliberately plays to his audience. It's a little like a parent laughing at a kid's tantrum, the kid just doesn't get it and his screams just get louder and louder to no effect.

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The Democrats taking the Senate in 2018 isn't highly likely - of the 33 seats being elected, only 9 are currently held by Republicans. Most of those seats are in the southwest, so they're relatively safe. Of course, if President Snowflake takes a very tough approach to trade/immigration with Mexico, those states stand to be impacted the most, although I'm not sure the impacts of any trade decisions will be seen at that point (barring a trade war).

Republicans have been voicing their optimism about being able to attain 60 Senate seats after the 2018 election, since 10 out of the 23 seats that are held by Democrat incumbents are in states that were won by Trump. Flipping those seats to Republican however may become a challenge, because Republicans can't point towards Clinton as a reason to vote Republican, but Democrats can certainly point towards Trump as a reason to vote Democrat - especially if Trump maintains or diminishes his popularity.

I think that it's a big concern with Republican strategists - should Trump continue to incite controversy and opposition, will it keep voters engaged in the day-to-day 'scandals' such that it could impact their results in 2018 and 2020? Will it cause voters, who don't typically vote Democrat, or vote at all, to come out in significant numbers and unseat Republican incumbents?

For Trump supporters, even if he is successful in bringing back jobs to some states (remember that a large percentage of his supporters were either retired, or working prior to the election), will that jobs growth outweigh the impact that the Republican health care plan will have on peoples' wallets?

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A interesting aspect of the Trump 'story' has been the antagonism and obstruction that he has encountered and continues to encourage, especially from the repubican side. In this respect it won't matter whether he's successful in any of his ventures or not, all that he needs to project is a well publicised programme that he's attempting these things. If he succeeds then he'll claim responsibility and if he fails he'll point to the existing establishment, especially from the majority republicans, as those who blocked him.

A win-win and who's to argue with him when he continues to attract so much 'bad' publicity. It's a lesson that Obama failed to learn and exploit.

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That's why I used the health care cost example - while it's relatively easy to use propaganda to trump-et misleading job creation data etc., with health care it becomes a harder sell, because people will actually see what that costs them. The 2018 election is on November 6, the window for purchasing health care for 2019 starts November 1, 2018.

I would agree hat he my try to pin the blame on others, but those 'others' are the people running for re-election in 2018. Trying to blame the Democrats, with Republican control of both the House and Senate won't fly, so the only choice is Republicans - which will simply splinter the Republicans even further.

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Refugees and certain immigrants on his list of things to issue orders for on Wed.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3203613/do.../?sf52577910=1

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Excellent 😂

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Misogynist, racist, advocate of torture, cruel to animals:

Trump stops rule to save Tennessee walking horses from soring - Horse & Hound

and he's orange.

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I always think that this should be entitled "God Help America"

This made me chuckle

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lol...That was funny.

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:)

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I was looking at photos of Trump signing his executive orders and I thought he looked arrogant and full of self importance.

But it occurred to me that I'd not seen photos of predecessors doing it. So I googled Obama and Bush.

There really was a difference. Trump was full on. His expression was that eyes nearly closed look of nonchalance regarding what he was doing. He was full on, one hand holding the document, the other signing. All quite formal with the people around all standing a distance back and mostly rigid as if they daren't cough or smile even.
(noticeable, too, that after the criticism of a lack of women in the first ones, there were some in the next ones :lol:)

Obama looked so much more relaxed, sometimes a smile...you could imagine a joke, he was often sideways, the other people more at ease...it all looked a lot less formal like he was just making a note of something.
Bush looked the same.

I dunno, maybe he's just less at ease being new in the job or maybe I'm seeing something not there.

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Mexican President has cancelled the meeting he was to have with Trump next week.

Trumps tweet:

“If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting,” Trump tweeted. “The U.S. has a 60 billion dollar trade deficit with Mexico. It has been a one-sided deal from the beginning of NAFTA with massive numbers… of jobs and companies lost.”

Followed by Mexican Presidents tweet:

“This morning we have informed the White House that I will not attend the meeting scheduled for next Tuesday with the @POTUS,” the Mexican president said. “Mexico reiterates its willingness to work with the United States to achieve agreements in favour of both Nations.”

Followed by this from Trump later in thw day but not on twitter.

“The president of Mexico and myself have agreed to cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week,” Trump said. “Unless Mexico is going to treat the United States fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless and I want to go a different route. We have no choice.”

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On the TV news footage, Trump looked quite relaxed and cheerful, probably pleased to be undoing Obama's hard work. I don't think you can read to much into such scenes though.

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I agree. Mannerisms are adopted throughout life and what I suspect that what you see when he signs these things is probably the same self satisfied image that he adopted whenever he was Trump CEO making good deals. At the moment though, he's playing with the US as though he's once more CEO and not president and he knows that for the moment he's boss and everyone else had better recognise it.... or, like some State Department officials they'll find themselves without a job.

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90- day ban on entry for anyone from Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

Exceptions for diplomatic visas.

60 days for other countries to provide necessary info Trump wants, if not provided citizens from those countries will be barred from travel to the US.

Various departments ordered to review what info the US Gov't needs to vet visitors and provide a list of countries that don't provide said info.

State Dept ordered to stop issuing visas to Syrian nationals and halt the processing of Syrian refugees. Remains in effect until Trump has determined enough security changes have been made.

4 month suspension of broader refugee program.

Cuts number of total refugees by half to 50,000 for this budget year, was originally set at 110,000 by Obama.

Exceptions made to refugees claiming persecution due to their religion if their religion is a minority religion, such as Christians in a Muslim country.

Prioritizing Christians could be unconstitutional.


Trump's sweeping executive order bars all Syrian refugees from entering U.S. - World - CBC News

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What about lefties. No, not politically. I mean those folk who are left handed. They're evil dudes too. :rofl:

Sorry...I mean bad dudes. I think that was his description.

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I have been known to extremely vet the odd Liverpool supporter entering Canada :lol:

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It's so strange seeing an elected political leader actually doing ! what he said he would do when he was running for office and scrapping for votes. Scary even.

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And yet, no ban on Saudi ?!? That makes a warped policy beyond farcical.

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Absolutely.
Nobody actually expects a politician to do any of the things he'd promised to do out of office. It comes as a bit of a shock when you have to dig deep and remember what he has promised in order to prepare yourself for the next bombshell...
The only effective opposition he has are the republicans themselves and they must be feel as though they've a tiger by the tail.

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what is so funny in the news today is Iran retaliation banning US citizens traveling to Iran

So, Iranian origin turned US citizens traveling to Iran to visit family wont be let in *unless they give up US citizenship*.... yer think?

Or those on the banned country list wanting to visit family in the US...

You sort of have to admire Trump for trying to 'keep to some of his election promise' for now

And what about all those whinging refugees, where will they end up.... Canada of course

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I think they could do with a break right now. :nod:

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I saw that too N2O

Iran condemned the order as an “open affront against the Muslim world and the Iranian nation” and vowed to retaliate.

Maybe I should put my family Bagdad vacation on hold till this all blows over :@)

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or until it 'blows up'

Get ready for the oil exports from the middle east to slow down (what another oil price increase) then with Russia coming to the rescue to supply oil to the US :nod:

Russia becomes a great trading partner.... mark my words

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A Sure thing IMO

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Hmmm... Intended or unintended consequences? I wonder.

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Russia has enough oil to supply the US should the middle east play silly buggers


Russia Exports | 1994-2017 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

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can all those US green card holders from the 7 countries on Trump's ban list currently stuck wherever come to Canada & stay up to 6 months while this thing settles down?

Imagine as one of those unfortunate people not being allowed back into the states where their life, work & possibly family is?

What would you do?

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I would expect that if you had legal status u be ok

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From the Guardian

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Trump: The less immigrants we have the better!
Pence: The fewer.
Trump: Shssshh, don't call me that in public yet.


(Shamelessly stolen.)

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Where in the constitution does it state the President doesn't have authority to let in refugees who are persecuted because of their religion ?

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Bless all the Sergeants and W/O 1's ...

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Premier Selfie has spoken on twitter

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau tweeted Saturday, "To those fleeing persecution, terror (and) war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith."

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So anyone currently living South of our border then...:lol:

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The problem is not that but prioritizing one set of batshit crazies over another. The Constitution obliges the President to treat people of all religions equally.

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OPEC reducing it's supply of oil would be good for Canada. The price would rise and the Oil Sands would suddenly be viable again ending the Alberta recession.