Originally Posted by el_richo

I'm still in the UK and don't see the anarchy, racial tension, violence, and general lack of morals non UK residents complain of. And i live in that there London.

I personally think it's there own way of convincing themselves they made the correct decision by moving to another country to rid themselves of there inner demons.

Originally Posted by cheepnis

read a pretty downbeat article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...rt-of-comments

british asian describes the racial and physical abuse he suffered on a London bus in full view of other passengers.

bad in itself, but the comments are very interesting veering from the defensive "put up or shut up" kind to similarly grim anecdotes on the tube, and occasionally sympathy.

reading them made me think how pleasant commuting on Translink is in comparison, not to mention just how morally lost the UK has become.

worth a read if you're toying with the idea of heading back to blighty

Originally Posted by JonboyE

Is the author lying?

Does that fact that someone doesn't experience incidents like this mean that they don't happen?

If they do happen are they acceptable?

If not, why isn't there a poster saying they are not acceptable?

Originally Posted by cheepnis

el_richo,

thanks for those links, very informative. but i don't feel that those contradict my opinion, more the opposite.

contrast that to the article and its responses to any of those stories you posted and the difference is that there is more passivity in dealing with (and the reporting of) those kind of problems over there compared to here in Van.

Originally Posted by cheepnis

i am surprised you'd feel safer on the tube and would be interested to know why.

Originally Posted by cheepnis

and when do londoners thank their bus driver as we often do here?

Originally Posted by Oink

The UK's an absolute disgrace, devoid of any moral fiber and ethically bankrupt. It’s a rude, angry place where the people are only interested in celebrity culture and getting pissed every night, fighting, beating up immigrants and old people. Crime is rampant, the education system is a joke, the trains are always late, the food is terrible and there are too many people. The cops are getting out of control, the media is awash with lies, homelessness is everywhere, there's nothing in the UK that's even worth saving, its all so sad, because once were a proud nation, a nation with an empire, where people knew what law and order was, respected their betters and did an honest days work for an honest pound. We were a nation of Shakespeare, Elgar and Wordsworth, now all we have is bloody Damien bloody Hirst sticking plastic fannies in pots of glue. Give me ****ing break, not on my watch buddy.

Originally Posted by cheepnis

i am surprised you'd feel safer on the tube and would be interested to know why