Germanwings Flight
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Re: Germanwings Flight
Yes, awful. I feel shocked
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Re: Germanwings Flight
So so terrible. So unbelievable.
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And the reinforced cockpit door would have worked against what it was supposed to do.
Where does it end. |
Re: Germanwings Flight
Originally Posted by Pizzawheel
(Post 11603457)
And the reinforced cockpit door would have worked against what it was supposed to do.
Where does it end. |
Re: Germanwings Flight
"Appears to"
No 100% proof yet that he did that, why would he ? They need to find a solid reason, he had a GF and loved flying, he flew gliders in his spare time and loved his job. It don't make sence. Horrid crash either way anyhow, thoughts are with the families In the US no one is allowed to be in the cockpit alone, these measures need to be introduced in Europe ASAP (what if he was having a heart attack?) |
Re: Germanwings Flight
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 11603473)
"Appears to"
No 100% proof yet that he did that, why would he ? They need to find a solid reason, he had a GF and loved flying, he flew gliders in his spare time and loved his job. It don't make sence. Horrid crash either way anyhow, thoughts are with the families In the US no one is allowed to be in the cockpit alone, these measures need to be introduced in Europe ASAP (what if he was having a heart attack?) |
Re: Germanwings Flight
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 11603473)
"Appears to"
No 100% proof yet that he did that, why would he ? They need to find a solid reason, he had a GF and loved flying, he flew gliders in his spare time and loved his job. It don't make sence. Horrid crash either way anyhow, thoughts are with the families In the US no one is allowed to be in the cockpit alone, these measures need to be introduced in Europe ASAP (what if he was having a heart attack?) |
Re: Germanwings Flight
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 11603473)
No 100% proof yet that he did that, why would he ? They need to find a solid reason, he had a GF and loved flying, he flew gliders in his spare time and loved his job. It don't make sence.
Secondly (and this is not meant as a personal attack against you :) ), solid reason? I don't think we'll likely ever have that, he's dead. Who said he loved his job? is there 100% irrefutable proof of this. So what if he had a girlfriend, doesn't mean he loved her, doesn't mean he was happy. No-one every really truly knows what another living being is thinking or feeling. |
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I wonder if he'd been brain washed by bloody ISIS
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Originally Posted by sharkus
(Post 11603513)
Firstly, yes, absolutely horrific for everyone involved.
Secondly (and this is not meant as a personal attack against you :) ), solid reason? I don't think we'll likely ever have that, he's dead. Who said he loved his job? is there 100% irrefutable proof of this. So what if he had a girlfriend, doesn't mean he loved her, doesn't mean he was happy. No-one every really truly knows what another living being is thinking or feeling. On a side note, a heart attack would have changed his breathing... I wondered about a stroke or mini stroke...could you accidentally hit the descent buttons if you slumped?? |
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According to news reports, he deliberately locked the other pilot out (manually) and then set the controls to crash (manually).
Tragic. Germanwings plane crash: Co-pilot 'wanted to destroy plane' - BBC News http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-32070528 |
Re: Germanwings Flight
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 11603533)
On a side note, a heart attack would have changed his breathing... I wondered about a stroke or mini stroke...could you accidentally hit the descent buttons if you slumped??
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Re: Germanwings Flight
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 11603473)
In the US no one is allowed to be in the cockpit alone, these measures need to be introduced in Europe ASAP (what if he was having a heart attack?)
Re: the heart attack, I was listening to an Air Canada pilot on the radio this morning who was talking about it. Basically what he said is that the cockpit door has 3 settings: Open, Normal, and Locked. Open is open. Normal is when the door is locked, but can be opened from the outside with a specific override function. The pilot on the GW plane tried to use this function to get back in after he used the bathroom. Locked is for stuff like terrorist attacks and whatever else - the door is locked from the inside and no override will open it up. It remains locked. However, the Locked state is on a timer, ranging from 5-20 minutes, depending on the aircraft. After that time period elapses, the door will revert to Normal state -- so that if the copilot did have a heart attack, the door does not remain permanently locked. That said, the timer can be "overridden" by simply flipping the door from Normal and back to Locked every 4-5 minutes - that will reset the timer. The AC pilot on the news said he thinks that this is what the copilot was doing. |
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I remember when the US required a flight attendant to go into the flight deck when a pilot left and people (not here) claiming it was an over reaction, not needed, and so on.
Seems there have been a couple cases now where having someone in the flight desk would have saved some lives. I know pilots have to undergo physical exams every year or whatever it is, but I do wonder how much if any is focused on mental health and the pilots overall emotional well being and whats going on in their life. |
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