Gender Pronouns

Old Nov 25th 2017, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
It does seem a different world. I can't help but think that many of these students are being confused into gender issues by academics who are seeking to establish some raison d'etre.

Has WLU reputation changed for the better in recent years? At least an official apology was made.
I don't know anything about WLU but I was copied on an email this week from a Waterloo graduate who addressed the recipient as "he". The usage was odd, "you" would have been better than "he", "if you do this" rather than "if he do this" but that's a common mistake.

The use of "he" caught my attention because the recipient is a woman. Granted Waterloo is a technical school but one would hope the graduates would be aware of the two common gender pronouns and able to select the appropriate one based on the configuration of the person addressed (assuming there are people of femininity in computer classes).
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Old Nov 25th 2017, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't know anything about WLU but I was copied on an email this week from a Waterloo graduate who addressed the recipient as "he". The usage was odd, "you" would have been better than "he", "if you do this" rather than "if he do this" but that's a common mistake.

The use of "he" caught my attention because the recipient is a woman. Granted Waterloo is a technical school but one would hope the graduates would be aware of the two common gender pronouns and able to select the appropriate one based on the configuration of the person addressed (assuming there are people of femininity in computer classes).
Might be a typo or a foreigner.
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Originally Posted by Shard
Might be a typo or a foreigner.
I work with the writer. That's how I know he's a Waterloo grad. I assume Asian languages don't have gender or the concept of the third person as it's something routinely incorrect in email from Waterloo graduates (I don't know if there are non-Asian students at Waterloo, I only meet the computer people).
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I work with the writer. That's how I know he's a Waterloo grad. I assume Asian languages don't have gender or the concept of the third person as it's something routinely incorrect in email from Waterloo graduates (I don't know if there are non-Asian students at Waterloo, I only meet the computer people).
This implies that computer people are Waterloo are Asian? Are we talking North American Asian (East) or British Asian (South)?

Not sure on the linguistics. It could be that there is no gender differentiation of the third person (as in some other languages).
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Originally Posted by Shard
This implies that computer people are Waterloo are Asian? Are we talking North American Asian (East) or British Asian (South)?

Not sure on the linguistics. It could be that there is no gender differentiation of the third person (as in some other languages).
American usage Asian. Chinese in this case.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I work with the writer. That's how I know he's a Waterloo grad. I assume Asian languages don't have gender or the concept of the third person as it's something routinely incorrect in email from Waterloo graduates (I don't know if there are non-Asian students at Waterloo, I only meet the computer people).
I was a non-asian non-computer student at Waterloo. Email hadn't been invented then.
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Originally Posted by Shard
It does seem a different world. I can't help but think that many of these students are being confused into gender issues by academics who are seeking to establish some raison d'etre.

Has WLU reputation changed for the better in recent years? At least an official apology was made.
When I was at U of W in the mid-80's WLU was seen as the party school and had a higher ratio of female students, less in terms of asian students and most students were there for 8 month stretches with no co-op programme which tends to create a transient student population who don't get involved in student politics as much.

I don't think WLU would be considered in the same ranking level as U of W.
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remembered from A-level chemistry. I was intrigued by the word (not so much by the isometry, I'm afraid) as I'd only come across it before when doing Latin prose translations from Caesar's De Bella Gallica.
De Bello Gallico mate. I did it for O-level.

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De Bello Gallico mate. I did it for O-level.
As one does.............
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As one does.............
As one did...
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De Bello Gallico mate. I did it for O-level.
Of course. Ablative singular, not accusative plural. Silly me
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Thanks. I would last about 5 minutes today if I had to work on a campus with all of these special interest groups and precious snowflakes who are offended by anybody who has an opinion that challenges their own agenda which they are trying to impose on others.

Laurier has changed a lot since I was a student at U of Waterloo and WLU was referred to as that 'high school down the street'
Oh, I don't know. I served a 22 year sentence at a Canadian Uni which was just as politically correct as a university should be.

No problem. It's just a matter of mutual respect.
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As one did...
I never did. I got my lowest ever exam mark in Latin. 18%. Quite an achievement.
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I never did. I got my lowest ever exam mark in Latin. 18%. Quite an achievement.
I failed my O-level Latin.

My form was required to do Latin (so we could sit English a year early). I didn't bother with Latin after I got the English. Didn't even revise for the exam.
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