GB news
#31
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Re: GB news
The BBC has less a traditional 'left/right' bias, but more a metro bias, (and that's been said time and again, even by BBC staff). I mean, it's hard to know what Labour really stands for to be able to say that the BBC supports the Labour agenda
If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.
If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.
#32
Re: GB news
There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
#33
Re: GB news
There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
#34
Re: GB news
The BBC has less a traditional 'left/right' bias, but more a metro bias, (and that's been said time and again, even by BBC staff). I mean, it's hard to know what Labour really stands for to be able to say that the BBC supports the Labour agenda
If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.
If GB News wants to fill a hole in the media, they would be better off going after more regional issues that the Beeb tends to ignore. I did tune in to GB news for 5 mins yesterday and it was some drivel about narcissism.
#35
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I just looked at Bristol and was surprised to be offered particular areas within Bristol
#36
Re: GB news
The best solution is to do research and read testimonials and evidence yourself on topics to come to a reasoned opinion. If you are going to watch it, remember to think very critically about everything being said.
#37
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Here you go with again with name calling. ‘You lot’. ‘Maybe you just hate British things’. Making assumptions again.
As long as one person is speaking in a derogatory way - and making unfounded assumptions about the other person, there is not room for dialogue and understanding. I originally asked a perfectly simple question about how to watch a new news channel. And immediately you made many assumptions about me. The one thing you didn’t assume was that I like to hear and read about diverse views, especially ones that may hold *different values* and *different political views* from my own. This is what helps one to grow. My conversation (if one could call it that) with you is over. Hope you have a wonderful life, making unfounded assumptions about all you meet. Adios.
As long as one person is speaking in a derogatory way - and making unfounded assumptions about the other person, there is not room for dialogue and understanding. I originally asked a perfectly simple question about how to watch a new news channel. And immediately you made many assumptions about me. The one thing you didn’t assume was that I like to hear and read about diverse views, especially ones that may hold *different values* and *different political views* from my own. This is what helps one to grow. My conversation (if one could call it that) with you is over. Hope you have a wonderful life, making unfounded assumptions about all you meet. Adios.
#39
Re: GB news
There is an interesting guide here for balance.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
Thanks for sharing...
#40
Re: GB news
My personal fave, AOC, espouses policies that would have made her a wet Tory in the Major era.
#41
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This simply isn't true. The Republicans and Conservatives have jumped into batshittery such that figures formerly considered hard right, such as Bush and Thatcher, now look like moderates, but no one else has moved. Kier Starmer isn't wildly left of Harold Wilson and Biden is just a whiter shade of Obama. The idea that the liberals of today are somehow extreme leftists is, itself, right wing propaganda.
My personal fave, AOC, espouses policies that would have made her a wet Tory in the Major era.
My personal fave, AOC, espouses policies that would have made her a wet Tory in the Major era.
Both sides have become more extreme nowadays... as its got into a war of "one-up-manship"
The left have also metamorphosised into something they never were years ago...the traditional left was just about looking after the working man, socialism, unions etc now, its more about moral sanctimony and to be seen up on their holier than thou perch.....political correctness has also become more extreme where even TV shows are being removed from some platforms.... Fawlty Towers for example... the best sitcom of all time, why?? there is this inability to put then and now into their relative contexts.... the world evolves, you cannot compare life of the past to the life of today.
Oh and come on, Corbyn was hard left... he made the labour party unelectable, even my left wing friends admitted to that one!
#42
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Well obviously that is a subjective view..... depending on your own political bias. Thatcher and Bush were simply staunch passionate right wing politicians not hard right..
Both sides have become more extreme nowadays... as its got into a war of "one-up-manship"
The left have also metamorphosised into something they never were years ago...the traditional left was just about looking after the working man, socialism, unions etc now, its more about moral sanctimony and to be seen up on their holier than thou perch.....political correctness has also become more extreme where even TV shows are being removed from some platforms.... Fawlty Towers for example... the best sitcom of all time, why?? there is this inability to put then and now into their relative contexts.... the world evolves, you cannot compare life of the past to the life of today.
Oh and come on, Corbyn was hard left... he made the labour party unelectable, even my left wing friends admitted to that one!
Both sides have become more extreme nowadays... as its got into a war of "one-up-manship"
The left have also metamorphosised into something they never were years ago...the traditional left was just about looking after the working man, socialism, unions etc now, its more about moral sanctimony and to be seen up on their holier than thou perch.....political correctness has also become more extreme where even TV shows are being removed from some platforms.... Fawlty Towers for example... the best sitcom of all time, why?? there is this inability to put then and now into their relative contexts.... the world evolves, you cannot compare life of the past to the life of today.
Oh and come on, Corbyn was hard left... he made the labour party unelectable, even my left wing friends admitted to that one!
I think political correctness as a concept is a creation of the right. No one actually cancelled Christmas, that's just nonsense the Mail makes up for the gammon. Has Fawlty Towers recently been removed from the BBC or some other quango, some medium where the government has influence? It's not my thing, some toff being racist, so I don't know where it was shown, but if it was on a privately owned facility then presumably they removed it because people won't pay to watch that sort of thing any more. Wouldn't it be agonizingly dated, like Monty Python, anyway?
#43
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I get nearly all of my news from The Viz. It's old school I grant you but still the most objective and comprehensively researched.
#44
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Thatcher was pro-EU. Cameron was just a posh wet who was scared/bullied into pandering to the extreme right just to avoid party conflict.But he allowed the extreme right to gain traction, and here we are... now in a situation where the previously batshit crazy are now mainstream. With their own TV channel where they can wail about how awful the normals are and calling anyone to the left of them Marxists.
The BBC *might* be a tad liberal, many would argue otherwise, but apart from the BBC, let's have a look at the UK national media and decide where the balance really lies:
Left/Liberal
Channel 4
The Guardian
The Observer
The Mirror
The Independent
Right/Conservative
The Times
The Sunday Times
The Telegraph
The Sunday Telegraph
The Daily Mail
The Sunday Mail
The Sun
The Sun on Sunday
The Express
The Sunday Express
ITV
GB News
That's just off the top of my head while I'm typing. Circulation/viewing wise, I'd estimate that the right have comfortably 75-85% of the total. That hardly warrants the position of being the "unheard forgotten voices" that GB News is portraying, is it? On the one hand they're claiming that a platform like GB News is necessary because they don't have a voice in the media, but on the other hand... Brexit!
The BBC *might* be a tad liberal, many would argue otherwise, but apart from the BBC, let's have a look at the UK national media and decide where the balance really lies:
Left/Liberal
Channel 4
The Guardian
The Observer
The Mirror
The Independent
Right/Conservative
The Times
The Sunday Times
The Telegraph
The Sunday Telegraph
The Daily Mail
The Sunday Mail
The Sun
The Sun on Sunday
The Express
The Sunday Express
ITV
GB News
That's just off the top of my head while I'm typing. Circulation/viewing wise, I'd estimate that the right have comfortably 75-85% of the total. That hardly warrants the position of being the "unheard forgotten voices" that GB News is portraying, is it? On the one hand they're claiming that a platform like GB News is necessary because they don't have a voice in the media, but on the other hand... Brexit!
#45
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Well yes, Conservatives at the time supported idea of an affluent middle class and that meant a successful economy. It's only recently that they've moved openly to the position that the well-being of the economy doesn't matter so long as an inner circle of jolly coves is doing well. I don't think the voters in the Thatcher era would have fallen for the nonsense the current government trots out, lie after lie, treaties signed in bad faith, constant corruption but then a public that voted for Brexit really is one of gullible gammon.
It's the teachers, innit? "Educated" a generation of idiots.
It's the teachers, innit? "Educated" a generation of idiots.