Jerseygirl

Exactly.

magnumpi

Jerseygirl

I did write ‘most’.

Yes I get the point...still nothing like the US...which were dbd’s comments I replied to.

JamesM

The problem is the locations of the shootings are happening in high density places with plenty of innocent bystanders who could be hit in the exchange of bullets.

Gang on gang was fine when they kept it in their own back yard.

It's in ours now.

MarkG

Pistols are quite strictly controlled here (though there was the recent case of someone buying about a dozen of them and loaning them to his criminal mates and the police not thinking that just maybe they should check the guy out a bit more), and they're the guns that criminals most want. And all legal gun owners require a background check that would disqualify gang members.

The Parkland shooter, for example, couldn't legally have got a gun in Canada, because he was a known loon who would also have had a hard time finding two references to vouch for him on his application.

But that doesn't stop the Liberals wasting time imposing more silly rules on law-abiding gun owners when they could be spending the time doing something about gangs instead. Hence the mess we're seeing today.

Jerseygirl

I read yesterday that most of the illegal guns in Canada are from the US. US border control are not concerned with people taking guns out of the US.

MarkG

Yes. It's hard to stop criminals getting guns when there's a vast land border with a country that's awash with them.

Not to mention a huge smuggling infrastructure bringing drugs and other illegal items into the country. Adding a few guns to the cargo isn't really hard for them to do.

dbd33

I have some guns. I used to have a handgun that I purchased at a drive thru gun store in the US and brought back to Canada. In order to buy it I had to pass my, Canadian, gun license through the drive in window, it was returned to me with the weapon even though it doesn't cover the gun being purchased. I never used that gun and it's not legal to have so I eventually binned it. The other guns are legal for me to hold and, indeed, legal for me to leave in the back seat of a convertible or in the bed of a pick up truck. I don't think one can say that anyone has wasted time imposing silly rules on law-abiding gun owners in Canada. My experience is that, if you want a gun, you can have a gun.

Thus, I reject the idea that the effort expended could been used to do something about gangs. I do wonder though what these misguided Liberals should have done; perhaps stamp out immigrants?

dbd33

I don't think this is a surprise to anyone and I don't think it's avoidable; guns are legal in the US and so available in Canada. Similarly, when marijuana is legal in Canada Americans will start trying it.

scrubbedexpat091

American's don't need it to be legal in Canada to start trying it, they can simply go to one of the 9 states that have legalized pot for recreational use, or one of the 3 Native American reservations.'

Its legal for medicinal use in 31 states.

dbd33

OK, another example, certain generic drugs are not available for sale in the US so as to protect the patent of the branded equivalent. The generic versions are legal for sale in Canada, due to the long border and heavy traffic across it, nothing can be done to effectively prevent the availability of those drugs in the US. If something is widely available on one side of the border it will be widely available on the other. Marlboro is another example, never legally sold in Canada (due to a trademark issue) but widely available in the US, I smoked them for twenty years in Canada, buying them at corner stores as easily as a bag of weed.

Souvy

Were you buying US Marlboro or the Canadian spoiler version? Buying dodgy smokes is getting iffy, apparently. One can, allegedly, buy a carton for $20 on certain reservations but you're stuffed if you get caught off-reservation. Anyone you see using a cigarette case is naughty.

Returning to topic, Ottawa is also getting tasty. Mostly gang related but people are getting caught up in the crossfire.

bats

Souvy

Health Canada approves cigarettes? I somehow doubt that.

We do not buy from the reserves. We go to Costco. Law-abiding citizens and all that.

Partially discharged

I'm not a smoker but I gather cigarettes at the Kirkland Boutique is the cheapest way to go. Do you need to be a re-seller for those? It seems very few people buy cigarettes at the location near my house.