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You should direct this question to Trudeau.

One possible explanation would be that he is more used to receiving free vacations and family members’ salaries from his government-funded pals and is not smart enough to give bribes in a more subtle manner. For one thing, timing cheques to exactly coincide with the election made it far too obvious and I think some people resent attempts to buy votes when they are quite so blatant.

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See, that was my interest in the CGT thing above. I thought for a moment that I'd made enough money in Canada that there was a chance of me benefitting from a Conservative policy. That'd be some boost to the ego. Alas, it wasn't to be. I'm never going to be their audience.

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Are you criticizing the dearly beloved leader? On average, 80-year olds have triple household net worth of 30-year olds.

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Cheer up. Got something to boost your ego. The good news is that you have qualified as a target of class warfare to cover the cost of the unnecessary election and generous handouts.

It’s widely expected that a majority Liberal government, or another minority propped up by the Dippers, will increase the capital gains inclusion rate from the current 50% to 75%. That would mean a tax hike of about a third.

In reality increasing the capital gains tax inclusion rate will do diddly in the face of an annual deficit which hit $350 billion last year. But logic long ago left politics.

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Why? It was you that described it as a bribe. As a bribe it doesn't make sense to alienate the greater number who won't get it.

I'm sure Trudeau doesn't see it as a bribe and it was you who described it so. My question is, therefore, for you.

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Vote buying with taxpayers’ own money always involves paying certain target groups. I can’t think of an election-timed handout which gave money to everyone. Yet every election we have politicians targeting certain groups, which is why our tax code looks so messy. If you think that selectivity proves that politicians never bribe target groups with taxpayer money because it “would alienate…” Fine.

This time sending $500 cheques in August regardless of needs or Covid impacts was more blatant than usual. And we know for a fact that Trudeau has fondness for corrupt practices, is unethical and broke the law on several occasions. Why did he pick this particular target group? Question for Trudeau.

P.S. I apologize profusely and in advance if I said something you don’t like about Saint Justin.

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You say that as if I'd vote for him. :confused:
He was a breath of fresh air after Harper and in comparison he is a saint. But that's not difficult. :lol:

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You aint 'eard me speak, mate. I've always been a target of class warfare.

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Probably explains why I don't like the liberal party much. :rofl:


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It was interesting to read the opinion of Tom Mulcair, someone who has actually fought the election fight in the past:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/fede...show-1.5557982

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When word leaked over the weekend that Justin Trudeau was asking his candidates to share any “wow” ideas they might have for the campaign, seasoned organizers from all parties were gobsmacked.
When you’re in power and you get to choose the date of the election, you’re not supposed to be last out of the starting blocks.

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Wow. Someone who actually fought an election. Whatever next, My experience crossing the street, by a pedestrian. :lol:

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I'll bite...

Accepting that Harper's personality was non-existent, what policies did he put into place that you believed smelled, and how has Trudeau corrected them?

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We need a statistician to properly compare the probability of an individual crossing the street vs the probability of leading a major Canadian party during an election campaign. Close run thing.

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Considering that most people in Canada drive everywhere it might be closer than you think :lol:

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Trudeau on the campaign trail:

Good words. Sure sounds like a man who KNOWS how to solve this problem. Of course house prices didn’t listen and just about doubled since this speech. City centres are bursting with homelessness.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...sing-1.3220479

At least he is good at recycling. Here is the 2021 version of his promises: https://liberal.ca/our-plan-for-affordable-housing/

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I don't think much of Trudeau but no party to the right of him is going to do anything for the homeless, it was Mike Harris who first filled the parks with people who no longer had anywhere else to go. Are you advocating voting for the NDP?

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NDP is better than Trudeau’s Liberals but… no, thank you. Didn’t think Mike Harris was in the running this time around but sure lets focus on different leaders from other parties, centuries and jurisdictions. What was Gladstone’s opinion about all this?

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Says the person who has mentioned two such names. :rofl:

This is what I meant about hypocrisy earlier. It's okay for you but anyone else does it is treated to sarcasm. :rolleyes:

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Pardon? “Such names”?

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Mike Harris is an exemplary Conservative. He led a government in Canada so it doesn't seem to me to be out of bounds to mention him when considering Conservatives in Canada. I haven't introduced a monster of foreign conservatism such as Priti Patel or Ted Cruz.

Harris took from the poor, gave to the rich and made the socially disadvantaged homeless. He socialized business losses while privatizing profits (the split of Ontario Hydro being a case in point). I don't say these things by way of accusation, they were the policies he stood on and enacted, they reflect core Conservative values. He's now a slum lord, working in an industry his government's policies created. If someone wanted a tax break for the rich they might have voted for Harris, if they cared about the homeless, even if only because they shit in the park and that's ugly, they would not have voted for Harris.

If you think this week's Conservatives are different from last week's Conservatives, well, bless your heart.

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“Progressive Conservatives” in Ontario from the 1990s are not actually “Conservative Party of Canada” regardless your ideology.

Here is O’Toole’s policy on dealing with the drug addiction crisis: https://www.conservative.ca/conserva...opioid-crisis/

Noticed you are more of a writer than a reader so here is a short summary: Addiction is to be treated as a health issue. Safe injection sites. New beds. Spending on mental health.

Now show me similarities in the platform of the 90s Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario and I will buy your argument. Pure hypothetical ideological la-la is also very interesting but I’ve read plenty.

While you are at it, google for stats on homelessness and you’ll find that it was increasing under the previous Federal Government but nowhere near as fast as under this Liberal government (even before Covid). To be fair, I am not sure how accurate these stats are, but the trends make sense. Out of interest, do you visit Toronto or Vancouver? Anecdotal, I know, but if you do then you know what I mean.

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Pretty obvious. Don't play dumb.
Just look at the words you used and then consider your mention of Pierre Trudeau from last century. :rolleyes:

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I visit Vancouver occasionally, Toronto whenever we run out of cheese, approximately fortnightly.

I'm afraid you're in the position of a man selling a Lada. You say this Lada is a new and different Lada but we've had Ladas before.

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It was an example of what rapidly increasing debt and money supply does to the inflation. The same “I don’t think about monetary policy” type of approach and so relevant to Trudeau Jr. Not irrelevant mention of a politician I don’t like who had different policies in a different jurisdiction.

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You do realize that Canada had Conservative governments in this century, right?

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As I said, hypocrisy that you think your reason for mentioning a name from the past is fine but for someone else it's something to be ridiculed.

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You are more than welcome to ridicule me for mentioning Trudeau.

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Mad Max can promise absolutely anything because there is zero risk of him even getting into parliament. And he chooses to claim that climate change is unproven. Ok.

I do love it how Max claims that he is our only hope. Always good when a politician has a sense of humour.

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It's a grim choice and the ppc is the grimmest.

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Our resident conspiracy theorist promotes conspiracy theorist and denier.

Consistent.

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I don't know enough about this EKOS Research to say one way or another if they have good track record or anything, but the charts are still interesting.

Kind of surprised so many low income folks support the Liberal Party, they really don't do anything to help low income, guess its fear of conservatives that keep people voting Liberal, such a messed up system really.

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.p...ugust-26-2021/
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Nano's poll.

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If recent polls translate into votes then Trudeau/Freeland come back to rule as a minority government, propped up by the NDP. The Liberal vote is much more efficient than the conservative one and winning by a large margin in Alberta does not help Tories if they lose by a small margin in Ontario. So the the additional cost and debt and a bunch of new even dumber policies will be the only impacts of this election.

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I'm wondering what # of seats for the Liberals if they got a minority government would cause Justin Trudeau to resign from the leadership. Pre 2019 election they had 177 seats, post election they had 157. Current polls put the Liberals at 141 seats, the Conservatives at 133

https://338canada.com/

The lustre from Justin is waning and my realistic goal is that this election is his downfall. All in all, I don't find him a very inspiring leader.

My riding is a close Liberal/Conservative race but I'm pretty sure my vote won't help either. I'm voting for the candidate who I've met and was inspired by but realistically doesn't have a chance.

I think I'm like many in Canada that are fed up with the antics/whipped votes and caustic tone of federal politics of the big 3.

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Why would Trudeau resign if he loses seats but keeps his minority government? His ego would be bruised but something tells me his ego is big enough to withstand a few knocks. SNC and WE didn’t trigger his resignation. He just kicked out the whistle blowers and shut down the investigations. And the party stood by JT. His dad ran the party for 16 years. Another decade to go?

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Talking of hypocrisy, Mr Trudeau is rallying the public against “house flippers”.

The problem is that a long-time Liberal organizer Taleeb Noormohamed is a flipper. He is running in the district where Jody Wilson-Raybould was an MP. Of course Justin got rid of Jody for having way too much decency. Its a safe Liberal seat now that Jody has left so Taleeb is guaranteed a spot in Ottawa.

Taleeb has Justin’s full support. He is claiming that he is not a flipper. There was a very good reason for buying and selling the house in quick succession. And the other three times.


https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/08...lipping-homes/

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Usual Liberal play, do something, get caught, but deny it or deflect.

Sounds like BS excuses to me, and definition of flipper, buy, wait a bit, sell for a profit.

When asked how many home he has sold within a two-year period after purchase in the last 10 years, he didn't want to speculate, and his office said it would take time, so seems he has done it so many times he doesn't know how many?

Nothing Trudeau say's is anything I will believe, he has had more than enough time to do something and has largely done nothing, broke several high profile promises from his 1st election though.

Re: Election 2021
 

An ongoing decline in the number of party members elected might be the trigger that causes him to resign as leader. He is a master of saying lots but not saying much. I'd forgotten about the WE scandal. I really couldn't figure out what the charity did. It sounded good but scratch the surface and there wasn't much there in terms of an actual charity.

Re: Election 2021
 

Declining number of elected liberals did not cause him to resign last time around but maybe this time would be different. Not sure a Twitter-sanctioned journalist with MMT leanings would be much of an improvement over the drama teacher.

Long way to go though. Perhaps strategic voting will cause NDPers to vote Liberal, BQ's efforts in Quebec get rewarded, Liberal voters decide to stay home in disgust, the millennials surge towards NDP or we get to see a major stumble by either CPC or Liberals.