Almost Canadian

Sounds like a replay of the 2015 election. The issue here is that I haven't heard a single substantive response to how Singh will actually achieve all that he is promising beside, "Tax the wealthy and move to a more environmentally friendly economy"

caretaker

The Chinese Communist Party are barbarians. What's your answer? Or rather, what's the Conservative Party's answer? All the diplomatic efforts so far haven't achieved anything. Shut off all trade with China until they release the 2 Michaels? Nobody's going to do that. Have a show trial and sentence Meng Wanzhou to 10 years for spitting on the sidewalk (not our thing), or say our extradition treaty with the US is void and send her back to China with a backroom deal to get our citizens back? China doesn't cave in to threats over trade; they're more likely to refuse to import something than to change their behaviour. This was demonstrated in the canola market when they showed they'd rather buy from a 3rd party and pay more than get it directly from us. That was over our condemnation of their treatment of the Uyghurs, even though they claimed it was a quality issue. Personally, I'd like to see the resource industry closed to outside ownership so China can no longer buy our mines and forests. Those things should be protected for future generations of Canadians. Never happen, of course, as long as the provinces can make those decisions. Each major party is promising to spend like crazy if they win, and the money has to come from somewhere. The spending can't be avoided. Because of the drought some farmers here are leaving crops in the field because they're too sparse to be worth harvesting, and some have sold their cattle because they can't grow or buy enough feed for them. Wait a few months for food prices to go up.

Mordko

Only someone completely clueless would draw a parallel with Canada.

Mordko

Certain things are easy. Eg:

-Condemn Uyghur concentration camps. Why did the Liberal government abstain during the vote in parliament?

- Align with Canada’s allies on actions. Why hasn’t Canada banned Chinese companies from building 5G networks - like our allies did? We need our allies help in dealing with bullies from China’s communist regime. What are we doing?

- Trade sanctions on China. Same thing. Why are we bending over.

- Strategy to rely on Chinese vaccines. What were they thinking?

dbd33

According to the Guardian, Canada has a well established history of persecution of minorities. There's been a fuss of late about some bones.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...l-genocide-map

I'm not defending the Chinese regime but this is not an issue about which Canadians should be smug (to the extent that a nation of the insufferably smug can suppress smugness).

Mordko

This isn’t about history. China is an autocratic regime which has minorities in concentration camps today. We are discussing elections in Canada. There is no parallel with China that is meaningful.

dbd33

Well, you took the thread off topic to take a poke at China's human rights record. If it doesn't suit you to discuss that in comparison to Canada, fair enough.

No sign of anyone soliciting for any of the candidates here. Lots of neo-fascist lawn signs, no others. Facebook says there's a "Jesus Dependent" candidate, whatever that is.

Mordko

The handling of our relationship with China, reaction to Uyghur concentration camps, Canadian hostages in China and Chinese regime interference in the Canadian elections are all issues relevant to the topic. Wasn’t meant as an invite to make ludicrous parallels, no.

scrubbedexpat091

Canada has gotten itself into a pickle, at times there doesn't seem to be enough money in Canada willing to invest into things leading to more foreign investment and ownership.

Look at the Vancouver aquarium, we have very wealthy people in Canada some (Jimmy Pattison through his Ripley's Believe It or Not! arm of the company) already own aquariums such as the one in Toronto, but none could be bothered with taking over the Vancouver aquarium to save it, and its not like the Aquarium's previous owners went straight to a US company, they approached dozens of potential buyers, some in Canada, but seems end of the day a US company is the only one who showed serious interest.

caretaker

I'm surprised he wouldn't buy it.

Mordko

Not many. Between them, Canadian billionaires have $200 billion. We have public/private debt of $4.5 trillion. Last year the Federal government added $350 billion to the national debt. We can have a Revolution, and Jag can take everything from the billionaires but we would still be in debt by a huge margin.

If a US company decided to invest in Canada, surely its a positive.

scilly

I wonder if they were put off more by the messy politics surrounding the Aquarium, Stanley Park, the Parks Board, City Hall, etc.

There was I understand much more going on in the background that was messy.

scrubbedexpat091

If it was messy it was hidden from the public well, at the time of the announcement the park board statement was quite positive about it.

Anyhow the only issue I can recall was over whales and dolphins but that was solved pre-COVID as the aquarium had already agreed to no keep such animals, and Helen would remain until she passes or relocated, but other than her, they have no other whales or dolphins that I am aware at the facility.


Canada is really too far gone on the housing situation for it to really be fixed, but people with houses need to stop complaining about tent city's, that is the consequence to not having a country with affordable housing.

caretaker

A Sun article from a year ago says he is convinced the tourism business is cooked because of the pandemic.
https://vancouversun.com/business/lo...-hunting-deals

adele

Same, I'm in the Vancouver Granville riding (we own a small 23 year old condo in the Cambie Village/VGH area). I will vote too.