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Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 11:14 am

Re: Does Lukiwski need to go?
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 6160856)
How can you have an arguementative debate (those two words say it all really - inciting something perchance) when you know full well that everyone on here will disagree with you? If you had many differing views and opinions then yes you can have a debate. If you have one that is going to whip up the hornets nest what do you expect?

And natural in one mans eyes is not natural in anothers - you have just got to accept that. Smae with paedophiles, I would readily hang draw and quater every last one of them, but in their own eyes they are doing what they feel they need to.

Now in your last post about voting for one - Paedophilia is ILLEGAL - homosexuality is not, alcohol impares your reasonable judgement - homosexuality does not, depression is a confirmed mental illness, and guess what........................

oooo the LAW!! man's law has changed more often in history than any other aspect of humanity. It will change again, and again and then again!!!

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 11:30 am

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There is no law that has more power than the laws of nature. If you try and break one you usually end up dead. Mans law only exisits to serve popular culture. They can be made and unmade to suit the mood of the people. etc... homosexulaty is legal in canada, the states, europe, but try and tour afganistan or iraq where homosexuality is punishible by death. mans law in effect. Natural law... man has sex with man, no offspring, the bloodline dies. man has sex with woman she gets pregnant and produces offspring to continue the bloodline. Mans law will always change. the laws of mother nature are the same as they were a billion years ago. You cannot judge what is natural by mans law, as the definition will change with time.

bazzz Apr 4th 2008 11:38 am

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6160970)
There is no law that has more power than the laws of nature. If you try and break one you usually end up dead. Mans law only exisits to serve popular culture. They can be made and unmade to suit the mood of the people. etc... homosexulaty is legal in canada, the states, europe, but try and tour afganistan or iraq where homosexuality is punishible by death. mans law in effect. Natural law... man has sex with man, no offspring, the bloodline dies. man has sex with woman she gets pregnant and produces offspring to continue the bloodline. Mans law will always change. the laws of mother nature are the same as they were a billion years ago. You cannot judge what is natural by mans law, as the definition will change with time.

What, so sex is only good for breeding? Does having a vasectomy make me mentally ill?

Anyway, so much for your laws:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7330196.stm

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6160989)
What, so sex is only good for breeding? Does having a vasectomy make me mentally ill?

Anyway, so much for your laws:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7330196.stm

Well that is the primary reason to have sex is it not? the fact that it is pleasurable just ensures copulation and procreation. just because homosexuality is not a proven mental disease does not mean it is the natural thing to do. It dosn't matter much because homos can't breed anyway. that so called "man" was a woman first, he\she always had an uterus.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 11:54 am

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6160970)
There is no law that has more power than the laws of nature. If you try and break one you usually end up dead. Mans law only exisits to serve popular culture. They can be made and unmade to suit the mood of the people. etc... homosexulaty is legal in canada, the states, europe, but try and tour afganistan or iraq where homosexuality is punishible by death. mans law in effect. Natural law... man has sex with man, no offspring, the bloodline dies. man has sex with woman she gets pregnant and produces offspring to continue the bloodline. Mans law will always change. the laws of mother nature are the same as they were a billion years ago. You cannot judge what is natural by mans law, as the definition will change with time.

dbd33? I thought you were washing your hair tonight?

Purley Apr 4th 2008 12:05 pm

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Yeah - its either db33 or a troll. Someone is 'avin' us on I fink!!

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 12:13 pm

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Originally Posted by bazzz (Post 6160989)
What, so sex is only good for breeding? Does having a vasectomy make me mentally ill?

Anyway, so much for your laws:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7330196.stm

The news story that link goes to just confirms how broken homes and immoral upbringing produces sexually confused teens that end up gay or going for a sex change. The society today would have a boy act like a girl or vice versa, instead of instilling the proper sexual roles upon the children. the human genome is unbiased towards sexuality, but it does control wether you are male or female. and if you are born a male, a man you should be. not some poor bloke who is made to think that he should be a woman because his penis is to small, or mabye he was taught to love his daddy the wrong way. sexual orentation starts in child hood, and if you tell the child they can be whatever sex they want, they will be confused and choose what they think you want them to be, instead of just being what they are

hot wasabi peas Apr 4th 2008 12:24 pm

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I wish I was gay cos I'm a lesbian magnet. Unfortuantely my troubled family life likely turned me straight... very straight... so straight that I don't mind boy dogs humping my leg.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161100)
The news story that link goes to just confirms how broken homes and immoral upbringing produces sexually confused teens that end up gay or going for a sex change. The society today would have a boy act like a girl or vice versa, instead of instilling the proper sexual roles upon the children. the human genome is unbiased towards sexuality, but it does control wether you are male or female. and if you are born a male, a man you should be. not some poor bloke who is made to think that he should be a woman because his penis is to small, or mabye he was taught to love his daddy the wrong way. sexual orentation starts in child hood, and if you tell the child they can be whatever sex they want, they will be confused and choose what they think you want them to be, instead of just being what they are

The clarity, the clarity! PM me Thor baby, I'll rock your world and God be my judge.

dbd33 Apr 4th 2008 12:34 pm

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Originally Posted by lizwil98 (Post 6161084)
Yeah - its either db33 or a troll. Someone is 'avin' us on I fink!!

Not me mate. I can't say I've heard of Mr. Lukiwski but I'd think that as a Conservative he's obliged to be at least mildly homophobic. I don't suppose Thorstien's views on faggotry clash strongly with those of Preston Manning or Steven Harper.

windward Apr 4th 2008 12:38 pm

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Wow... I came back to the thread to point out that the Toronto Star has a poll about this guy and find this. Wonderful.

http://www.thestar.com/#

'Is an apology sufficient?'

66%/33% To the forgive-and-forgets or anti-limp-wrist brigade, or whatever their reasons when I submitted.



Originally Posted by bazzz View Post
What, so sex is only good for breeding? Does having a vasectomy make me mentally ill?
Well that is the primary reason to have sex is it not?
.. Not for me it's not. Contraception ftw.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 12:45 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6161153)
Not me mate. I can't say I've heard of Mr. Lukiwski but I'd think that as a Conservative he's obliged to be at least mildly homophobic. I don't suppose Thorstien's views on faggotry clash strongly with those of Preston Manning or Steven Harper.

Oh really! Mr. Lukiwski has been a household word for ....... hours, at least.

If Thorstien is not you, then maybe Stockwell Day's meds have run low?

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 12:49 pm

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well it's been a blast, but I've more pressing matters than discussing homosexuality and politicians, and theroies of how the politicain became gay. lol. Final note- Keep Lukiwski, let him fix his mistakes, and vote for a better MP next election.

gingnut Apr 4th 2008 12:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161100)
The news story that link goes to just confirms how broken homes and immoral upbringing produces sexually confused teens that end up gay or going for a sex change. The society today would have a boy act like a girl or vice versa, instead of instilling the proper sexual roles upon the children. the human genome is unbiased towards sexuality, but it does control wether you are male or female. and if you are born a male, a man you should be. not some poor bloke who is made to think that he should be a woman because his penis is to small, or mabye he was taught to love his daddy the wrong way. sexual orentation starts in child hood, and if you tell the child they can be whatever sex they want, they will be confused and choose what they think you want them to be, instead of just being what they are

Can I guess that you are making these posts too prove just how offensive Lukiwski's remarks were? If you are than I do see your side of the argument. However have not changed my position. If you actually believe this crap then maybe if will help you get fast tracked in to Canada considering the current government! BTW there are several species of animals that do have intercorse with the same sex, saw it on a documentry once. I would get some examples but I haven't activated my parental controls yet and am not brave enough to google "homosexuality in the wild"


Originally Posted by windward (Post 6161162)
Wow... I came back to the thread to point out that the Toronto Star has a poll about this guy and find this. Wonderful.

http://www.thestar.com/#

'Is an apology sufficient?'

66%/33% To the forgive-and-forgets or anti-limp-wrist brigade, or whatever their reasons when I submitted.



.. Not for me it's not. Contraception ftw.

Just because some say Lukwiski should not have to resign does not mean we agree with the sentiments of what was said by him. Not being in SK you may not understand that this was done by a desperate provincial NDP gov(who I actually voted for this last election) that lost and now wants to discredit the Sask Party that is in power. Now the federal opposition parties are jumping on this too send the message that the conservative party of today are just the same rednecks from out west that were in the REEEFOOORM party. Maybe the forgive and forgets are just jaded by the Gotcha! mentality of politics. If the comments were made 1 year go or made in public I might be less forgiving.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 12:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161177)
well it's been a blast, but I've more pressing matters than discussing homosexuality and politicians, and theroies of how the politicain became gay. lol. Final note- Keep Lukiwski, let him fix his mistakes, and vote for a better MP next election.

Not Quo, surely?

dbd33 Apr 4th 2008 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by gingnut (Post 6161195)
Can I guess that you are making these posts too prove just how offensive Lukiwski's remarks were? If you are than I do see your side of the argument. However have not changed my position. If you actually believe this crap then maybe if will help you get fast tracked in to Canada considering the current government! BTW there are several species of animals that do have intercorse with the same sex, saw it on a documentry once. I would get some examples but I haven't activated my parental controls yet and am not brave enough to google "homosexuality in the wild"

Just because some say Lukwiski should not have to resign does not mean we agree with the sentiments of what was said by him. Not being in SK you may not understand that this was done by a desperate provincial NDP gov(who I actually voted for this last election) that lost and now wants to discredit the Sask Party that is in power. Now the federal opposition parties are jumping on this too send the message that the conservative party of today are just the same rednecks from out west that were in the REEEFOOORM party. Maybe the forgive and forgets are just jaded by the Gotcha! mentality of politics. If the comments were made 1 year go or made in public I might be less forgiving.


Giraffes. Always at it.

gingnut Apr 4th 2008 12:59 pm

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Can't trust anything with a neck that long!

Lorna_D Apr 4th 2008 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161177)
well it's been a blast, but I've more pressing matters than discussing homosexuality and politicians, and theroies of how the politicain became gay. lol. Final note- Keep Lukiwski, let him fix his mistakes, and vote for a better MP next election.

So go on, do tell, did you break the record for how long can I be a troll before the mods kick me off?

dbd33 Apr 4th 2008 1:02 pm

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Originally Posted by gingnut (Post 6161206)
Can't trust anything with a neck that long!

Rather a shame they're not lesbians really.

gingnut Apr 4th 2008 1:05 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6161217)
Rather a shame they're not lesbians really.

:rofl:

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 1:18 pm

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Originally Posted by gingnut (Post 6161206)
Can't trust anything with a neck that long!

Giraffes only evolved long necks because their disgusting homosexuality causes them to fart a great deal.

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6161153)
Not me mate. I can't say I've heard of Mr. Lukiwski but I'd think that as a Conservative he's obliged to be at least mildly homophobic. I don't suppose Thorstien's views on faggotry clash strongly with those of Preston Manning or Steven Harper.

I'm not very political, I try and follow politics, then I fall asleep. I just had to comment on the latest news story and provide my view point as a Home grown canadian citizen.

dbd33 Apr 4th 2008 1:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161269)
a Home grown canadian citizen.

Again, I don't think you've said anything that would clash with the views of most people who would describe themselves in those terms. I personally don't much care for Canadians but I fear there's little one can do about them.

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 1:44 pm

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My views on homosexuality are just that. MY views. I think there are more important things to worry about than wether you want to munch carpet (mmm) or eat a choclate starfish(eeww), or your comments on the subject. hmmm contridictary eh? well I must say that I would argue just for the sake of proving you wrong. as a mentally ill person (ADD) I some times find it hard to stay on topic and rember all the details. so if I've digressed please forgive me and if you would like clarification don't be afriad to ask.

dbd33 Apr 4th 2008 1:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161326)
My views on homosexuality are just that. MY views. I think there are more important things to worry about than wether you want to munch carpet (mmm) or eat a choclate starfish(eeww), or your comments on the subject. hmmm contridictary eh? well I must say that I would argue just for the sake of proving you wrong. as a mentally ill person (ADD) I some times find it hard to stay on topic and rember all the details. so if I've digressed please forgive me and if you would like clarification don't be afriad to ask.

Please. It denigrates people who are truly insane when people who merely have difficulty writing coherently and a fixation with other people's gential agitations claim mental illness as an excuse. So, you're a bit of a redneck, someone who would have been comfortable in South Africa in the sixties, that just makes you unpleasant, it doesn't make you mad.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 1:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161326)
My views on homosexuality are just that. MY views. I think there are more important things to worry about than wether you want to munch carpet (mmm) or eat a choclate starfish(eeww), or your comments on the subject. hmmm contridictary eh? well I must say that I would argue just for the sake of proving you wrong. as a mentally ill person (ADD) I some times find it hard to stay on topic and rember all the details. so if I've digressed please forgive me and if you would like clarification don't be afriad to ask.

The Stockwell Day theory is firming up. (as, of course, am I)

Lorna_D Apr 4th 2008 1:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161326)
My views on homosexuality are just that. MY views. I think there are more important things to worry about than wether you want to munch carpet (mmm) or eat a choclate starfish(eeww), or your comments on the subject. hmmm contridictary eh? well I must say that I would argue just for the sake of proving you wrong. as a mentally ill person (ADD) I some times find it hard to stay on topic and rember all the details. so if I've digressed please forgive me and if you would like clarification don't be afriad to ask.

ADD is a developmental disorder not mental disorder

hot wasabi peas Apr 4th 2008 1:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 6161362)
The Stockwell Day theory is firming up.


Mmmm... Stockwell Day... firming... politics aside, I would let him hump my leg.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 1:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Lorna_D (Post 6161371)
ADD is a developmental disorder not mental disorder

As opposed, of course, to homosexuality.

Novocastrian Apr 4th 2008 1:59 pm

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 6161375)
Mmmm... Stockwell Day... firming... politics aside, I would let him hump my leg.

It's a dog eat dog world out there.

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 2:01 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6161300)
Again, I don't think you've said anything that would clash with the views of most people who would describe themselves in those terms. I personally don't much care for Canadians but I fear there's little one can do about them.

So if you don't like canadians why don't you move back to your own country?

hot wasabi peas Apr 4th 2008 2:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 6161383)
It's a dog eat dog world out there.

"And I'm wearing milkbone underwear"

dbd33 Apr 4th 2008 2:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161387)
So if you don't like canadians why don't you move back to your own country?


I enjoy flaunting myself before them.


More seriously, there are few Canadians in and around Toronto, I rarely meet one so not thinking much of them really isn't an issue day-to-day.

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 2:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Lorna_D (Post 6161371)
ADD is a developmental disorder not mental disorder

Well paint me purple and call me a lair. nice to see some facts on the matter. thank you for the correction. Hey people, if I was wrong about that one, what else might be right? As I said earlier, these are my views and I could be wrong. I've got nothing against homosexuals, It just makes me wonder why natural selection would create them?

Lorna_D Apr 4th 2008 2:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 6161378)
As opposed, of course, to homosexuality.

I apologise for the oversight, unfortunately my multi tasking ability is not at it's best I fear watching Star Wars is taking the largest part of my brain action. May the Force Be With You http://*************.net/star-wars-smiley-5472.gif

hot wasabi peas Apr 4th 2008 2:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Thorstien (Post 6161420)
It just makes me wonder why natural selection would create them?

Gay men exist to create gay porn which is sexually arousing to heterosexual women. Most will deny that because it seems unfeminine to get wet watching two, or more, blokes go at it.

Heterosexual women trapped by the confines of matrimony then turn to their passionless, sexually docile husbands as that is their only choice to get their rocks off and babies appear, repeat.

ann m Apr 4th 2008 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 6161481)
Gay men exist to create gay porn which is sexually arousing to heterosexual women. Most will deny that because it seems unfeminine to get wet watching two, or more, blokes go at it.

Heterosexual women trapped by the confines of matrimony then turn to their passionless, sexually docile husbands as that is their only choice to get their rocks off and babies appear, repeat.

:eek::rofl:

See - it's easy when you know the answer .....

windward Apr 4th 2008 2:56 pm

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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas (Post 6161481)
Gay men exist to create gay porn which is sexually arousing to heterosexual women. Most will deny that because it seems unfeminine to get wet watching two, or more, blokes go at it.

Heterosexual women trapped by the confines of matrimony then turn to their passionless, sexually docile husbands as that is their only choice to get their rocks off and babies appear, repeat.

.lol. 'Married and bored, or single and lonely'.

Not sure about natural selection but it's not just gay people who can get their rocks off with same sex experiences as HWP happily points out. Sex is about pleasure, emotions, not just babies. Hell, women don't even need go near a d*ck to get pregnant if they don't want to. Pick some hunky dna from a catalogue and you're away.

Thorstien Apr 4th 2008 2:59 pm

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g'nite and good bye. I'm outta here.

hot wasabi peas Apr 4th 2008 3:03 pm

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Originally Posted by windward (Post 6161540)
.lol. 'Married and bored, or single and lonely'.

Not sure about natural selection but it's not just gay people who can get their rocks off with same sex experiences as HWP happily points out. Sex is about pleasure, emotions, not just babies. Hell, women don't even need go near a d*ck to get pregnant if they don't want to. Pick some hunky dna from a catalogue and you're away.

Oh hell... all women need is a healthy volunteer, a bowl and a turkey baster. I could go on about the natual selection of kitchen utensils but I'm really not very domesticated.


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