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Old Sep 25th 2017, 2:16 am
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Default Re: The difference between the US & Canada?

Canada needs more people, that's pretty much what it comes down to. 3.49 people per square km does not a juggernaut economy make, sub-arctic tundra be damned.

Russia has entire cities above the arctic circle.

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Old Sep 25th 2017, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by Bleepedy Bloops
Canada needs more people, that's pretty much what it comes down to.
Not when so many jobs are about to be automated away. America may be in a much worse position to deal with the rise of automation than Canada is, because it built a far more industrial economy, and pretty much all the industrial jobs that haven't been shipped to China will soon be done by robots.
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If robots take over, how will people survive? I understand automation and robots are the future, but how will companies sell anything if people are not working?

The only thing I can come up with as to the difference between US and Canada is the US went independent of the UK and had a larger population from the start, and maybe the US has more liberal immigration back in the day that kept building the population.

Look at Australia, better weather but still far smaller population wise vs the US.

Granted they have a huge middle part that might not be the most popular place to live. But hey the US has major city's in the middle of deserts with hot weather, so people very clearly will live in dry, hot places.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
If robots take over, how will people survive? I understand automation and robots are the future, but how will companies sell anything if people are not working?

The only thing I can come up with as to the difference between US and Canada is the US went independent of the UK and had a larger population from the start, and maybe the US has more liberal immigration back in the day that kept building the population.

Look at Australia, better weather but still far smaller population wise vs the US.

Granted they have a huge middle part that might not be the most popular place to live. But hey the US has major city's in the middle of deserts with hot weather, so people very clearly will live in dry, hot places.
It's even a more of a shithole than Canada.
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Originally Posted by Oink
It's even a more of a shithole than Canada.
I quite liked Sydney. I would prefer to live there vs Vancouver...

My list of countries to live:

US
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
If robots take over, how will people survive? I understand automation and robots are the future, but how will companies sell anything if people are not working? .....
That argument has been used repeatedly since the start of the industrial revolution more than 200 years ago. At each incremental step forward of technology, say every 30-40 years, there has been the same argument put forward - if machines replace workers, what will everyone do?

There have been relatively short periods of adjustment as the change in technology has been "digested" by economies, but at no point since the start of the industrial revolution has there been a permanent loss of jobs due to mechanization and improved technology. I am not aware of any basis to think it is different this time.

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...my list of countries to live:
US
Australia
Canada
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
That argument has been used repeatedly since the start of the industrial revolution more than 200 years ago. At each incremental step forward of technology, say every 30-40 years, there has been the same argument put forward - if machines replace workers, what will everyone do?

There have been relatively short periods of adjustment as the change in technology has been "digested" by economies, but at no point since the start of the industrial revolution has there been a permanent loss of jobs due to mechanization and improved technology. I am not aware of any basis to think it is different this time.
It's different this time. Full discussion in the Barbie.
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It's different this time. Full discussion in the Barbie.
Been there, and it was a pretty turgid argument going on the last time I looked.

The "it's different this time" argument has been tried every time subsequent to the first time. That argument has also been wrong every time, and it is this time too.
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Default Re: The difference between the US & Canada?

Originally Posted by Pulaski
Been there, and it was a pretty turgid argument going on the last time I looked.

The "it's different this time" argument has been tried every time subsequent to the first time. That argument has also been wrong every time, and it is this time too.
The "its different this time" argument has been wrong consistently on this issue, party because of the dynamic nature of the economy with a reasonable level of economic freedom. The transition can be brutal- and with the more restrictions in place now on the economy ( the growth in regulation the past decades is astonishing)- and perhaps making transition harder.
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The jobs of the future just seem too skilled for the masses. Those working low skill jobs a good % likely cannot do highly skilled jobs. We are just not all smart enough and its those group of folks who are most at risk.

In 20 years time we likely will not need truck drivers, cashiers, plane loaders etc and will there be enough low skill jobs left for people like me.

I am not so sure.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
The jobs of the future just seem too skilled for the masses. Those working low skill jobs a good % likely cannot do highly skilled jobs. We are just not all smart enough and its those group of folks who are most at risk.

In 20 years time we likely will not need truck drivers, cashiers, plane loaders etc and will there be enough low skill jobs left for people like me.

I am not so sure.
I'm in a low-skilled job that may be supplanted by, but not replaced by technology for the same cost.

I work as event security, and as a door supervisor.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
..... In 20 years time we likely will not need truck drivers, cashiers, plane loaders .......
100 years ago stable hands were facing a bleak future but there was no such job as a plane loader. The future is full of surprises, including creating jobs that not only didn't exist, but nobody had even imagined.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
The jobs of the future just seem too skilled for the masses. Those working low skill jobs a good % likely cannot do highly skilled jobs. We are just not all smart enough and its those group of folks who are most at risk.

In 20 years time we likely will not need truck drivers, cashiers, plane loaders etc and will there be enough low skill jobs left for people like me.

I am not so sure.
You hit the nail on the head. It won't just affect 'people like you' but many office workers and professions too. Anything repetitive. With luck, governments will have introduced UBI (universal basic income) by that stage to support displaced workers.
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I work as a door supervisor.
You should be fine then. There are always openings.
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