Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11544866)

No downer days, especially with Gozit, who IMO, has been given a wealth of help & information from us oldies that have traveled the road.

I'm wondering if Gozit's parents are looking in or if in fact Gozit has discussed with them the questions or future that has been put on BE?


As for the 'who pays for it' ....pretty much.

In our case, it was a two way street. We gave them room & board while they they went to Uni. In return they worked their way through it.

All the toys & gadgets came from their own pockets.

They survived & now lead their own lives... job done

What about you Sally, did you foot the whole bill for your kids to go the further education route?

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11544858)

Wow, BE is a real downer nowadays.

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11544654)

from wikipedia...

Bill Gates Mr Microsoft

Gates did not have a definite study plan while a student at Harvard[39] and spent a lot of time using the school's computers. Gates remained in contact with Paul Allen, and he joined him at Honeywell during the summer of 1974.[40] The following year saw the release of the MITS Altair 8800 based on the Intel 8080 CPU, and Gates and Allen saw this as the opportunity to start their own computer software company.[41] Gates dropped out of Harvard at this time.[42] He had talked this decision over with his parents, who were supportive of him after seeing how much Gates wanted to start a company.[39]

Steve Jobs Mr Apple

Following high school graduation in 1972, Jobs enrolled at Reed College in Portland, Oregon. Reed was an expensive college which Paul and Clara could ill afford. They were spending much of their life savings on their son's higher education.[50] Jobs dropped out of college after six months and spent the next 18 months dropping in on creative classes, including a course on calligraphy.[52] In the commencement address he gave at Stanford, Jobs said that, while he continued to audit classes at Reed, he slept on the floor in friends' dorm rooms, returned Coke bottles for food money, and got weekly free meals at the local Hare Krishna temple.[53] In that same speech, Jobs said: "If I had never dropped in on that single calligraphy course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts."[53]

Richard Branson The Virgin Airlines billionaire

Branson was educated at Scaitcliffe School, a prep school in Berkshire, before briefly attending Cliff View House School in Sussex.[10] Branson attended Stowe School, an independent school in Buckinghamshire until the age of sixteen.[10] Branson has dyslexia and had poor academic performance as a student, and on his last day at school, his headmaster, Robert Drayson, told him he would either end up in prison or become a millionaire.[10]

Branson's parents were supportive of his endeavors from an early age.[11]

Michael G DeGroote Mr Laidlaw

DeGroote was born in Belgium to Flemish parents and immigrated to Canada with his parents when he was 14 years old. He left school in Grade 9 to help his family by working in the tobacco fields near Tillsonburg, Ontario.

is a Canadian businessman and philanthropist from Hamilton, Ontario who currently resides in Bermuda. Aside from his business career, he is best known as a major private donor to local educational institutions such as McMaster University [1] and Hillfield Strathallan College.[2]

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11544858)

Wow, BE is a real downer nowadays.

What do you lot say to your own kids? Don't bother with anything, it's all crap? I'm not paying for you to do anything because no-one paid for me?

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11544945)

Problem with examples like this are they are exceptional exceptions and not the norm. Most people will not excel to this point in life with a university degree let alone without one.

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11544858)

Wow, BE is a real downer nowadays.

What do you lot say to your own kids? Don't bother with anything, it's all crap? I'm not paying for you to do anything because no-one paid for me?

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11544985)

If they were attentive parents they'd of ensured that their children achieved extremely high academic grades so they could take advantage of scholarships. Then they wouldn't have to moan.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11545035)

And if the child is unable to get extremely high academic grades? You can have the most attentive parents on the planet and still not do well in school.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11544949)

Depends on what people have experienced in life, those with struggles won't see life with all the positive bells and whistles where someone who has found major success and less struggles may see life as the best thing ever, and everything in between both extremes.

It's okay to be optimistic, however you still need to be realistic when it comes to life, you can't want anything, but sometimes no amount of hard work will lead to that goal, all depends on how high the barrier wall is, sometimes it's too high to conquer.

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11545054)

I don't agree. Someone can have a lot of struggles but remain positive and want their kids and other young people to achieve their best.

It must be a cold day in hell if I'm being seen as too optimistic :lol:

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11545062)

Maybe you have become more optimistic with your move?

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11545067)

Could be.

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11545070)

I should probably know this, but for how long were you in LA Sally?

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11545047)

Teach them to play an instrument so they can get a band scholarship.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11545109)

My parents tried to get me to learn an instrument, sax and clarinet. I sucked at the sax, but did moderately okay on the clarinet, but nothing noteworthy, just basic tunes, never learn how to read music though well.

They tried sports too, I wasn't good, still not good. No coordination at all....

I was good at nature stuff though, so they finally gave up and let me do what I wanted....