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Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 11091586)
Presumably to protect her from any deranged DLT fans who may want to "discuss" the matter with her?
should not the accuser be named? After all she is now an adult even if this supposedly happened a long time ago |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 11091603)
may well be but if he is identified then why not her?
should not the accuser be named? After all she is now an adult even if this supposedly happened a long time ago this in particular. Putting the accusers in the spotlight is going to further discourage people from coming forward, as if having to relive the experience and face your assaulter in court and have his lawyer rip into your character and actions isnt enough of an impediment to people coming forward in trials of the nature in the first place. |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
FFS, please read my post above. It doesn't matter how long ago it was, it still takes a lot of bravery to come forward. She may well be ashamed of what was done to her, it isn't unusual. There is also the possibility that her nearest and dearest don't actually know what happened, and she doesn't want them to. She might also not be ready to tell this story to her boss, friends, colleagues, children...
As to why he was identified, I have no idea, and I wouldn't have cared if he had remained anonymous until proven guilty, but can we please stop picking on the victims! Is it any wonder that they're afraid to come forward really? |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 11091613)
Im not going to spell it out again. perhaps read some of my posts on that subject in this very thread.
this in particular. Putting the accusers in the spotlight is going to further discourage people from coming forward, as if having to relive the experience and face your assaulter in court and have his lawyer rip into your character and actions isnt enough of an impediment to people coming forward in trials of the nature in the first place. |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Why wouldn't they be? Please see my last post, I don't see how any of that would be expected to change?
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Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 11091748)
ok iaink I see your point which begs the question: what happens after the trial, regardless of the outcome? Is the accuser still protected?
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Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 11091748)
ok iaink I see your point which begs the question: what happens after the trial, regardless of the outcome? Is the accuser still protected?
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Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11091870)
Why would you want to know?
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Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 11091870)
Why would you want to know?
if someone can be accused, and once a verdict is rendered, whatever it is, there is no longer a need for secrecy it seems to me or am i missing something here? |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 11091911)
in the interest of fairness and common decency
if someone can be accused, and once a verdict is rendered, whatever it is, there is no longer a need for secrecy it seems to me or am i missing something here? |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by montreal mike
(Post 11091911)
in the interest of fairness and common decency
if someone can be accused, and once a verdict is rendered, whatever it is, there is no longer a need for secrecy it seems to me or am i missing something here? There are arguments for both positions. |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
http://content.met.police.uk/Article.../1400012764357
It is against the law for newspapers or television to use your name or give details that would make it clear who you are. If you are worried about your own or your family's safety, ask the police how we can help you. ok this anonymity issue is now settled in my mind but there is no mention that i can see of what to expect once the trial is over |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 11092008)
This article shows what the chairperson of the Bar Council of England and Wales had to say about it: Huffing Post
There are arguments for both positions. most enlightening |
Re: Dave Lee Travis
Mike, if you don't want to read the whole thread, I would suggest you just read the last page. Hopefully it will clear up some of the reasons why a victim of sexual assault might want to retain their anonymity. I think what I've written in those posts is very clear.
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Re: Dave Lee Travis
Originally Posted by Dashie
(Post 11092075)
Mike, if you don't want to read the whole thread, I would suggest you just read the last page. Hopefully it will clear up some of the reasons why a victim of sexual assault might want to retain their anonymity. I think what I've written in those posts is very clear.
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