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geedee Sep 8th 2009 12:44 pm

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by mardyarse (Post 7914883)
well I'm from the West Country we always called it "scrumpy" but this was made on farms by hand. I shouldn't think its called for much past the M4 corridor. Besides why are you calling it Cyder and not Cider?

Are you familiar with a pub on Dartmoor called The Plume of Feathers? They used to brew their own, and rumour was they obtained the unique flavour, consistency and strength by fermenting half a piglet in the vat.

Whatever they did, it used to have most of us paralytic after three pints!

purple80 Sep 8th 2009 2:17 pm

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by geedee (Post 7915445)
Are you familiar with a pub on Dartmoor called The Plume of Feathers? They used to brew their own, and rumour was they obtained the unique flavour, consistency and strength by fermenting half a piglet in the vat.

Whatever they did, it used to have most of us paralytic after three pints!

Pork and apple sauce I understand, but piglet in cider, ewww.

jericho Sep 8th 2009 3:47 pm

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 
Best cider I've had in a while is Rock Creek, made by Big Rock brewery here in Alberta. They use apples from the Okanagan, and it's one of my favorites.

mardyarse Sep 9th 2009 2:58 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by geedee (Post 7915445)
Are you familiar with a pub on Dartmoor called The Plume of Feathers? They used to brew their own, and rumour was they obtained the unique flavour, consistency and strength by fermenting half a piglet in the vat.

Whatever they did, it used to have most of us paralytic after three pints!

floating rats and anything else that used to find its way into the barrels apparently!

Toaris Sep 9th 2009 11:01 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by Ian - Toronto (Post 7914860)
I landed a week ago as a PR, I'd spent 14 months over through 2008/09 and am moderately familiar now with Toronto and the area.

There is one question that remains, one quest that eludes me. Where can one purchase a bottle, flagon, or vat of something that resembles English Cyder? I am speaking of the sort you'd get in the West Country - cloudy, possbily bitty, sour or bitter, made from apples and not the sugar.

So far I have found one Canadian brand at the LCBO/Beer Stores that could come close but is slightly effervescent and still a bit sweet to the taste. I know you can get Westons which is on the right lines but is akin to asking for lager and getting a pint of Fosters. Fine to quell a need but I'd not live on it! Other offerings seem to be of the Strongbow/Magners(or Bulmers)/Blackthorn range all of which are far too sweet and not at all what I'm looking for.

If anyone has found something good please do share!:thumbsup:

:fingerscrossed:

Hey, Ian being originally from Wiltshire I am in the same boat. Best I have come up with is Cremant St Nicolas but its more of a sparkly wine at 2.8% and Nectar de Glace at 9% ( more of a sherry). I guess I should mix the two and see what comes up! Quebec seems to be the best for cider and as I live in Ottawa, its on my doorstep. Anyway the challenge is on for the best rocket fuel. Best of luck.

treehavn Sep 10th 2009 3:55 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 
Sadly there isn't any decent cider easy to come by in Toronto. I've heard rumours of the occasional cask being on tap at some of the 'real ale' places (Volo, C'est Wha?) but the Waupoos cider from Prince Edward County doesn't seem to travel well - it was quite nice at the Waring House near Picton, but like drinking vinegar at C'est Wha? (but then I think C'est Wha? might be the most overrated bar I've been to).

You occasionally see Quebec ciders in the LCBO, but as a previous poster said they're priced akin to a bottle of wine and the one's I've seen are all about 3%. I've tried my own homebrews with...middling success (one drinkable batch, two flippin horrible) but still on the hunt for the elusive scrumpy. Heard good things about west coast cider makers, but Ontario cider tastes like a fizzy alcopop to me.

Oink Sep 4th 2010 5:55 pm

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Just to mention that I went into the Three Lions pub in Vancouver tonight and they had Magners cider, although they charged $8.00 for a 500ml can.

Alan2005 Sep 4th 2010 6:06 pm

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8826958)
Just to mention that I went into the Three Lions pub in Vancouver tonight and they had Magners cider, although they charged $8.00 for a 500ml can.

Didn't triumphguy say he was making some cider about the time of this thread?

mandymoochops Sep 4th 2010 6:17 pm

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8826958)
Just to mention that I went into the Three Lions pub in Vancouver tonight and they had Magners cider, although they charged $8.00 for a 500ml can.

Wow - you remembered a thread from around a year ago to dig up and comment on.

Are you a woman?

Oink Sep 4th 2010 7:39 pm

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 8826979)
Wow - you remembered a thread from around a year ago to dig up and comment on.

Are you a woman?

With every discovery like this makes Canada just that bit more livable. And, I used the search button and picked the most appropriate. It's common sense which thus makes me a man. ;)

BristolUK Sep 5th 2010 1:43 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7914979)
flydermays

Igor: Dr. Frankenstein...
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: "Fronkensteen."
Igor: You're putting me on.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, it's pronounced "Fronkensteen."
Igor: Do you also say "Froaderick"?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No... "Frederick."
Igor: Well, why isn't it "Froaderick Fronkensteen"?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: It isn't; it's "Frederick Fronkensteen."
Igor: I see.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: You must be Igor.
[He pronounces it ee-gor]
Igor: No, it's pronounced "eye-gor."
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: But they told me it was "ee-gor."
Igor: Well, they were wrong then, weren't they?

YYZlover Sep 6th 2010 4:40 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by Ian - Toronto (Post 7914914)
As to my use of the alternative spelling, I've got into the habit of using cider for the newer mass produced sweeter or fizzy offerings (strongbow, kopparberg et al.) and cyder for the more traditional stuff and didn't really think about it.

Wait! Can you get Kopparberg in Canada now? When I saw it in UK I nearly fainted. UK has the best Ciders there are and they import Kopparberg? (I'm swedish and used to like it until I got trained on Magners, which is just now starting to show up in Sweden. Strongbow and Stowford has been available for a while.)

Sorry I can't help you with your problem. I have a similar in reverse. I'm gagging for a Labatts or Molson. Of course neither available where I live.

Alberta_Rose Sep 6th 2010 4:57 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 
Y'm intrigued to hear there is actually a difference between cyder and cider .... are they pronounced the same? If so do you always have to say "cyder-with-a-Y" to clarify which of the two you are talking about ...... hmmmmm .... <goes off to paint her tent>

fledermaus Sep 6th 2010 8:31 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by Alberta_Rose (Post 8830062)
Y'm intrigued to hear there is actually a difference between cyder and cider .... are they pronounced the same? If so do you always have to say "cyder-with-a-Y" to clarify which of the two you are talking about ...... hmmmmm .... <goes off to paint her tent>

Maybe cyder is sigh-derr and cider is sid-er??

In Ontario "apple cider" is freshly squashed apple juice. Had me wondering why they were giving cider to kids, then I realised. Duh.

Steve_P Sep 6th 2010 9:40 am

Re: Cyder Glorious Cyder
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8830343)
In Ontario "apple cider" is freshly squashed apple juice. Had me wondering why they were giving cider to kids, then I realised. Duh.

From Wikipedia

Alcoholic cider is made from the fermented juice of apples and is known in the United States and Canada as hard cider; non-alcoholic cider is called apple cider.
Why, I have no idea.


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