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JamesM Sep 20th 2016 5:09 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12056593)
Darts. That's the sport for me. Beer and throwing sharp projectiles around. What could go wrong?

Axe throwing is pretty big in the GTA these days. Why limit yourself to pricking someone when you could take a limb?

Howefamily Sep 21st 2016 12:34 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12057129)
:rofl:


Never heard of these...presumably in the world of work.



Either sound suitable alternative names for the maple leaf part of the forum :rofl:

I wish I had never heard of these either and yes its in the world of work.

dbd33 Sep 21st 2016 12:46 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 12057111)
Sometimes, in my working life, I don't feel like I have assimilated at all.
I get tired of different terminology and trying to make sure I am understood, not just in what I am saying but in my intentions. Just a slight sentence change can make all the difference to how its perceived.


God only knows how long I have been upsetting people by calling their homes ugly in error in the homey versus homely situation.


I want to hear "who holds responsibility for..." rather than "who owns it" and "the details" rather than "level of granularity" and "lets return to that" rather than "we will do a deeper dive"
I counted the word "leverage" used when discussing new systems about 50 times in one speech the other day.
And when someone wrote "The parking lot" on a sheet of white paper and hung it up in the meeting room I wondered "what on earth...." until I realized that it was where the "deeper dive" items were going to be listed...


ugh


Rant over

Last week someone who, I suppose, thought he was "reaching out to have a conversation" said "I'm going to share my values...". I leveraged the following minutes by entering a contemplative state or, as they'd have it here, "zoning out".

Howefamily Sep 21st 2016 1:47 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12057837)
Last week someone who, I suppose, thought he was "reaching out to have a conversation" said "I'm going to share my values...". I leveraged the following minutes by entering a contemplative state or, as they'd have it here, "zoning out".


LOL! Love it!!! :rofl:

Souvy Sep 21st 2016 4:09 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12057837)
Last week someone who, I suppose, thought he was "reaching out to have a conversation" said "I'm going to share my values...". I leveraged the following minutes by entering a contemplative state or, as they'd have it here, "zoning out".

"Reach out" makes me want to vomit. As do "leverage" and "paradigm" (I never did look up that last one).

"Deep dive" is very common in corporate/government circles. It means nothing other than "we should use more advanced search terms in Google next time we try to think about something".

BristolUK Sep 21st 2016 4:22 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12058023)
"Reach out" makes me want to vomit.

There's loads of them.

I just found this and I was surprised at how many...then I noticed they were all letter by letter. :eek:

The Ridiculous Business Jargon Dictionary – R - The Office Life

Oakvillian Sep 21st 2016 4:32 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 
If ever you need "placeholder text" in a document to do a business-style layout, instead of using the graphic designer's standby "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet..." pseudo-Latin stuff, you can try "bullshit ipsum," a collection of utterly useless jargon words strung together in random sentences with not enough verbs. A lot like a management consultant report, really...

Bullshit Ipsum

Here's the first paragraph it spat out for me this morning:

Tagclouds solutions infrastructures, distributed; unleash front-end user-centric grow networks, communities addelivery folksonomies networkeffects utilize maximize e-business. Whiteboard, create, "aggregate standards-compliant efficient streamline world-class implement." Harness experiences grow mashups e-business ubiquitous innovate deliverables syndicate integrate communities robust integrate, one-to-one communities share.

dbd33 Sep 21st 2016 4:56 am

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Going forward my feedback on the on-boarding procedure will concern the utilization of profile images.

Few people have their credibility enhanced by the inclusion of a photograph with their emails "fashion victim", "geek", "slack jowled", "bit of a boozer", "mutton", "childish" are impressions easily conveyed.

"Competent person keen to help" is not.

bats Sep 21st 2016 9:37 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12058023)
"Reach out" makes me want to vomit. As do "leverage" and "paradigm" (I never did look up that last one).

"Deep dive" is very common in corporate/government circles. It means nothing other than "we should use more advanced search terms in Google next time we try to think about something".

Retch out

caretaker Sep 21st 2016 10:47 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 
I don't have to take any of that, if I don't want to go to a staff meeting because I don't think anything constructive involving me will result I just tell them I'm not going. The concept of total quality management doesn't need any buzzwords.

Oink Sep 21st 2016 11:18 am

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12058356)
I don't have to take any of that, if I don't want to go to a staff meeting because I don't think anything constructive involving me will result I just tell them I'm not going. The concept of total quality management doesn't need any buzzwords.


That sounds refreshing. What's worse than just having to attend is when they have the temerity to ask you question in one. tbh I've rarely if any do research and I'm usually barely listening so I'm not likely to have anything constructive to say. Past history should tell them at best they'll get some puerile response or an attempt at a Christmas crackeresque joke. :(

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2016 12:18 pm

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 
Can't say I really see what's wrong "reach out". It's a good shorthand for getting in touch with somebody that's outside your day-to-day contacts.

Or "leverage" to use something that already exists.

Or even the hated "synergy" to get rid of duplication or whatever context it's used in.

Probably comes from working for a massive corporation for god knows how many years.

dbd33 Sep 21st 2016 12:28 pm

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 12058431)
Can't say I really see what's wrong "reach out". It's a good shorthand for getting in touch with somebody that's outside your day-to-day contacts.

A typical comment at the "scrum" is "I reached out to" person standing two along. The next person speaks and then the reachee who says "I had a conversation" (with the reacher). Nothing at all is conveyed by the reporting of this reaching and conversing. The first person may as well say "I asked Joe" and the third "I told Bill, I dunno" or, in fact, Bill could just ask the bloody question right there so Joe can not know in real time.

Alan2005 Sep 21st 2016 12:42 pm

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12058441)
A typical comment at the "scrum" is "I reached out to" person standing two along. The next person speaks and then the reachee who says "I had a conversation" (with the reacher). Nothing at all is conveyed by the reporting of this reaching and conversing. The first person may as well say "I asked Joe" and the third "I told Bill, I dunno" or, in fact, Bill could just ask the bloody question right there so Joe can not know in real time.

Yeah, if that's true then you work with retards. Nobody says "I reached out to bob" when bob is right there. I only ever hear it (or use it) when bob is in some other group where getting in touch requires some actual effort and you're not even sure if it's bob you need to speak to anyway. Everybody understands this so the phrase is useful.

I dunno, it seems to me that sneering at business speak is a bigger cliche than said speak itself is now-a-days.

JamesM Sep 21st 2016 12:53 pm

Re: Cultural Assimilation
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12058441)
A typical comment at the "scrum" is "I reached out to" person standing two along. The next person speaks and then the reachee who says "I had a conversation" (with the reacher). Nothing at all is conveyed by the reporting of this reaching and conversing. The first person may as well say "I asked Joe" and the third "I told Bill, I dunno" or, in fact, Bill could just ask the bloody question right there so Joe can not know in real time.

My boss bought in this daily stand up scrum bollocks. We had to do a call every morning at 8.20am with a time limit of 10 minutes.

I told him that I didn't have a hands free in my car so I'd have to do it from home then leave for work.

The beauty is I don't wake up now till 8.15. Do the call. Chill out, have breakfast, shower and swan into the office closer to 10.

We've reduced it now to twice a week sadly. I had to put some value and common sense into the process though.


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