crime does not pay. really?
 

http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

unbelievable

Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.

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How's it paid off for him? He's likely bankrupt, and is going to find gaining employment difficult.

Should the tax payer continue bear the cost to incarcerate him? Who's really being punished if he was in jail for another few years? Are the victims any more likely to get their money back? Is he going to be any more rehabilitated?

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all good points

but then why give him any jail time at all ?

why not demand an apology and impose community service?

how would you feel if you were a victim?

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I'd feel like an idiot for being duped ;)

I think a short jail term and community service for cases like this is more appropriate. Give something back to the community you screwed over.

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He, according to the article you misquoted, served 1/3 of his sentence.

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no argument there

I copied from the link

I did not misquote

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on local TV, some of his victims were interviewed, many of whom had lost their life savings and retirement nest eggs

i think there were more than simply 'being duped'

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1738606

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This is copied from the link.

Fraudster Earl Jones, the man behind a $50-million scam that cost many people their life savings, was to be released from prison Thursday after serving one-third of his 11-year sentence.

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I can't even see the bit montreal mike has italicised in the article.

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it is all there in post number 1

do the maths and it works out to one third

so then, what is misleading?

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I'm not that bothered but I couldn't see those actual words in the linked article - it seemed that neither could you before you deleted your posts.

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I think its more or less a waste of money to put these white collar criminals in prison, prison should be used to house those who are dangerous to the public at large.

In these cases fines, lots of community service, and probation seems to be a better use of resources.

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yes i was confused for a moment, posted, but then went back to the original post, and then i deleted

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You didn't delete this. "Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010."

Where did that come from? A third is usual in most such cases. He's done that.

Edit. Not that I condone what he did, he should (excuse the cross thread reference) have been put to death.

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+1

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I agree with that. Although I suppose the risk is that they are so adept in their duplicitous ways that they will fleece members of the community again.

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You'd think it would be possible to make restrictions barring them from any commerce that would give them opportunity, but it seems more complex in individual cases. In the early 80's Nelson Skalbania in Vancouver bilked a lot of people out of megabucks and they actually had to ante up a million or more (I'm not looking it up) for him to re-invest because that was the only hope they had of getting him to make them their money back. In '83 I rode my bike past his place on Marine Dr and I recall thinking a million probably wouldn't pay the taxes on it.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-26680664

A woman who threw acid in the face of a friend while wearing a veil as a disguise has been jailed for 12 years.

And how long will it be before she is walking the streets again?

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A very sad situation. A lose-lose for both parties, the convicted woman will never forget her moment of bitterness, and of course the victim has been denied her best life.

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from what i can gather white collar criminals are treated with kid gloves

whereas violent offenders are punished more severely

in both cases the sentences seem to be shortened when these people become good little boys and girls, once inside the clink ;)

plus it helps to display 'genuine' remorse when in front of a judge ;)

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Well white collar crimes is only a crime of money. There is also the argument that the victims should bear some responsibility for being duped. Violent crime is a different matter.

This guy getting ten years for infomercials. Crazy.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ears-swindling

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Yes it is, but he did have multiple chances over the years to clean his act up...

If I recall correctly he is in the federal system as well, so will likely serve pretty much the entire 10 years, he would have been better off in the state system somewhere, better chance of early release.

Long prison sentences don't seem to do much of anything, nor deter criminals since criminals never seem to think they will ever get caught, and don't tend to think of the consequences before they commit a crime.

Unless a violent crime or a high threat to society, we need to reform and make these people more useful to society, even just working a few years picking crops on a farm would be better then having them sit in a prison for years not contributing to much of anything.

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Maybe they can just wear a special irremovable collar saying: Beware: I am a crook and be allowed to get on with his life.