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montreal mike Mar 20th 2014 6:12 pm

crime does not pay. really?
 
http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

unbelievable

Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.

R I C H Mar 20th 2014 9:52 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11182616)
http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

unbelievable

Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.

How's it paid off for him? He's likely bankrupt, and is going to find gaining employment difficult.

Should the tax payer continue bear the cost to incarcerate him? Who's really being punished if he was in jail for another few years? Are the victims any more likely to get their money back? Is he going to be any more rehabilitated?

montreal mike Mar 20th 2014 10:00 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 11182961)
How's it paid off for him? He's likely bankrupt, and is going to find gaining employment difficult.

Should the tax payer continue bear the cost to incarcerate him? Who's really being punished if he was in jail for another few years? Are the victims any more likely to get their money back? Is he going to be any more rehabilitated?

all good points

but then why give him any jail time at all ?

why not demand an apology and impose community service?

how would you feel if you were a victim?

R I C H Mar 20th 2014 10:01 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11182973)
all good points

but then why give him any jail time at all ?

why not demand an apology and impose community service?

how would you feel if you were a victim?

I'd feel like an idiot for being duped ;)

I think a short jail term and community service for cases like this is more appropriate. Give something back to the community you screwed over.

mikelincs Mar 20th 2014 10:24 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11182616)
http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

unbelievable

Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.

He, according to the article you misquoted, served 1/3 of his sentence.

montreal mike Mar 20th 2014 10:31 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11183007)
He, according to the article you misquoted, served 1/3 of his sentence.

no argument there

I copied from the link

I did not misquote

montreal mike Mar 20th 2014 10:35 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 11182976)
I'd feel like an idiot for being duped ;)

I think a short jail term and community service for cases like this is more appropriate. Give something back to the community you screwed over.

on local TV, some of his victims were interviewed, many of whom had lost their life savings and retirement nest eggs

i think there were more than simply 'being duped'

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1738606

mikelincs Mar 20th 2014 11:43 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11183016)
no argument there

I copied from the link

I did not misquote

This is copied from the link.

Fraudster Earl Jones, the man behind a $50-million scam that cost many people their life savings, was to be released from prison Thursday after serving one-third of his 11-year sentence.

Sally Redux Mar 20th 2014 11:55 pm

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11183117)
This is copied from the link.

Fraudster Earl Jones, the man behind a $50-million scam that cost many people their life savings, was to be released from prison Thursday after serving one-third of his 11-year sentence.

I can't even see the bit montreal mike has italicised in the article.

montreal mike Mar 21st 2014 12:28 am

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11183127)
I can't even see the bit montreal mike has italicised in the article.

it is all there in post number 1

do the maths and it works out to one third

so then, what is misleading?

Sally Redux Mar 21st 2014 12:55 am

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11183163)
it is all there in post number 1

do the maths and it works out to one third

so then, what is misleading?

I'm not that bothered but I couldn't see those actual words in the linked article - it seemed that neither could you before you deleted your posts.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 21st 2014 1:13 am

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 
I think its more or less a waste of money to put these white collar criminals in prison, prison should be used to house those who are dangerous to the public at large.

In these cases fines, lots of community service, and probation seems to be a better use of resources.

montreal mike Mar 21st 2014 1:15 am

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11183180)
I'm not that bothered but I couldn't see those actual words in the linked article - it seemed that neither could you before you deleted your posts.

yes i was confused for a moment, posted, but then went back to the original post, and then i deleted

Novocastrian Mar 21st 2014 1:21 am

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11183217)
yes i was confused for a moment, posted, but then went back to the original post, and then i deleted

You didn't delete this. "Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010."

Where did that come from? A third is usual in most such cases. He's done that.

Edit. Not that I condone what he did, he should (excuse the cross thread reference) have been put to death.

rivingtonpike Mar 21st 2014 2:00 am

Re: crime does not pay. really?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11183231)
You didn't delete this. "Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010."

Where did that come from? A third is usual in most such cases. He's done that.

Edit. Not that I condone what he did, he should (excuse the cross thread reference) have been put to death.

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