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Old Mar 20th 2014, 6:12 pm
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http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

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Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.

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Originally Posted by montreal mike
http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

unbelievable

Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.
How's it paid off for him? He's likely bankrupt, and is going to find gaining employment difficult.

Should the tax payer continue bear the cost to incarcerate him? Who's really being punished if he was in jail for another few years? Are the victims any more likely to get their money back? Is he going to be any more rehabilitated?
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Old Mar 20th 2014, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by R I C H
How's it paid off for him? He's likely bankrupt, and is going to find gaining employment difficult.

Should the tax payer continue bear the cost to incarcerate him? Who's really being punished if he was in jail for another few years? Are the victims any more likely to get their money back? Is he going to be any more rehabilitated?
all good points

but then why give him any jail time at all ?

why not demand an apology and impose community service?

how would you feel if you were a victim?
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
all good points

but then why give him any jail time at all ?

why not demand an apology and impose community service?

how would you feel if you were a victim?
I'd feel like an idiot for being duped

I think a short jail term and community service for cases like this is more appropriate. Give something back to the community you screwed over.
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
http://www.cjad.com/NationalCP/Article.aspx?id=413503

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Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010.
He, according to the article you misquoted, served 1/3 of his sentence.
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
He, according to the article you misquoted, served 1/3 of his sentence.
no argument there

I copied from the link

I did not misquote
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Originally Posted by R I C H
I'd feel like an idiot for being duped

I think a short jail term and community service for cases like this is more appropriate. Give something back to the community you screwed over.
on local TV, some of his victims were interviewed, many of whom had lost their life savings and retirement nest eggs

i think there were more than simply 'being duped'

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.1738606

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Originally Posted by montreal mike
no argument there

I copied from the link

I did not misquote
This is copied from the link.

Fraudster Earl Jones, the man behind a $50-million scam that cost many people their life savings, was to be released from prison Thursday after serving one-third of his 11-year sentence.
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Originally Posted by mikelincs
This is copied from the link.

Fraudster Earl Jones, the man behind a $50-million scam that cost many people their life savings, was to be released from prison Thursday after serving one-third of his 11-year sentence.
I can't even see the bit montreal mike has italicised in the article.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
I can't even see the bit montreal mike has italicised in the article.
it is all there in post number 1

do the maths and it works out to one third

so then, what is misleading?

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Originally Posted by montreal mike
it is all there in post number 1

do the maths and it works out to one third

so then, what is misleading?
I'm not that bothered but I couldn't see those actual words in the linked article - it seemed that neither could you before you deleted your posts.
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I think its more or less a waste of money to put these white collar criminals in prison, prison should be used to house those who are dangerous to the public at large.

In these cases fines, lots of community service, and probation seems to be a better use of resources.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
I'm not that bothered but I couldn't see those actual words in the linked article - it seemed that neither could you before you deleted your posts.
yes i was confused for a moment, posted, but then went back to the original post, and then i deleted
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Originally Posted by montreal mike
yes i was confused for a moment, posted, but then went back to the original post, and then i deleted
You didn't delete this. "Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010."

Where did that come from? A third is usual in most such cases. He's done that.

Edit. Not that I condone what he did, he should (excuse the cross thread reference) have been put to death.
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You didn't delete this. "Jones was eligible to apply for parole after serving one-sixth of his sentence and has actually spent more than four years behind bars. A judge handed down the 11-year-sentence in February 2010."

Where did that come from? A third is usual in most such cases. He's done that.

Edit. Not that I condone what he did, he should (excuse the cross thread reference) have been put to death.
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