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Old Dec 18th 2017, 2:46 pm
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I take it you disagree, do you see Jeremy Corbyn as being a swashbuckling man of action?

Personally I think he has to be the biggest imbecile to ever "grace" British politics, he lives in a complete fantasy world.
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Old Dec 18th 2017, 2:53 pm
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Personally I think he has to be the biggest imbecile to ever "grace" British politics, he lives in a complete fantasy world.
Indeed, the traditional world of Sociaism....
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Old Dec 18th 2017, 3:10 pm
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Indeed, the traditional world of Sociaism....

Socialism is a little too mild for that man, he is a communist in every sense of the word.
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Personally I think he has to be the biggest imbecile to ever "grace" British politics, he lives in a complete fantasy world.
I used to be quite anti-JC, but actually he has demonstrated high integrity in his politics, and certainly seeks to improve the lot of the less fortunate in society. Many people in Britain quite like the idea of re-nationalising the rail companies. I wouldn't say he's an imbecile, and certainly not the biggest imbecile (that honour would go to BoJo or Dianne Abbott).
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Socialism is a little too mild for that man, he is a communist in every sense of the word.
Name one sense of the word please?
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Old Dec 18th 2017, 4:04 pm
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I used to be quite anti-JC, but actually he has demonstrated high integrity in his politics, and certainly seeks to improve the lot of the less fortunate in society. Many people in Britain quite like the idea of re-nationalising the rail companies. I wouldn't say he's an imbecile, and certainly not the biggest imbecile (that honour would go to BoJo or Dianne Abbott).
Maybe imbecile is too strong a word, (Im not having a good day to day) I think in his own world he means well, but its a fantasy world.
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Maybe imbecile is too strong a word, (Im not having a good day to day) I think in his own world he means well, but its a fantasy world.
Perhaps a bit self-inflicted? I'm still waiting to hear how JC is better described as a communist rather than as a socialist?
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Name one sense of the word please?
There are many, I could just pluck a random trivial example one out of the air.... leading up to the UK election I remember him saying that if elected he would make all four patron saint days of the UK additional national holidays! Thats all very nice, but who would fund that?

As I said to Shard, I don't think hes a bad man, I think he actually means well in his own mind, its just his ideals are just not realistic.

Communism is a good idea in theory, but human nature will never allow it to work.
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Perhaps a bit self-inflicted? I'm still waiting to hear how JC is better described as a communist rather than as a socialist?
There is nothing self inflicted about the situation I currently find myself in.

I think in these civilised times I welcome mild socialism....Im for the NHS, subsidised housing and other benefits (as long as they are not abused) which they quite often are., but Corbyn is an extreme socialist.
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There are many, I could just pluck a random trivial example one out of the air.... leading up to the UK election I remember him saying that if elected he would make all four patron saint days of the UK additional national holidays! Thats all very nice, but who would fund that?
Christ in heaven! You think that defines communism? I think it's not his best idea ever, but only suggests that he recognizes the equality in theory of the four UK nation states.

As I said to Shard, I don't think hes a bad man, I think he actually means well in his own mind, its just his ideals are just not realistic.

Communism is a good idea in theory, but human nature will never allow it to work.
Look. You accused him of being a communist "in every sense of the word". He's not, in any sense of the word. Stop digging.
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Old Dec 18th 2017, 4:31 pm
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[QUOTE=Novocastrian;12401634]Christ in heaven! You think that defines communism? I think it's not his best idea ever, but only suggests that he recognizes the equality in theory of the four UK nation states.



Look. You accused him of being a communist "in every sense of the word". He's not, in any sense of the word. Stop digging.[/QUOTE


I believe in equality of all the 4 nation states, but why make them holidays? it just a pointless waste of money.

Talking of which...the minimum wage he pledged to raise....to £10 an hour...thats even worse than Wynne's $15 an hour!! Its ridiculous! Thats pretty communist! Id like to clarify that I call extreme socialism the modern communism, I suppose its my way of being a little sarcastic.
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Christ in heaven! You think that defines communism? I think it's not his best idea ever, but only suggests that he recognizes the equality in theory of the four UK nation states.



Look. You accused him of being a communist "in every sense of the word". He's not, in any sense of the word. Stop digging.[/QUOTE


I believe in equality of all the 4 nation states, but why make them holidays? it just a pointless waste of money.

Talking of which...the minimum wage he pledged to raise....to £10 an hour...thats even worse than Wynne's $15 an hour!! Its ridiculous! Thats pretty communist! Id like to clarify that I call extreme socialism the modern communism, I suppose its my way of being a little sarcastic.
Some might argue, that extreme Sociaism is in fact Communism, be it a modern version or otherwise.
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Some might argue, that extreme Sociaism is in fact Communism, be it a modern version or otherwise.
Some might, but they'd be wrong. Since we're bandying about ill-though-out epithets, what is "extreme"socialism in your view?

You can thank me for sorting out your inability to use quotes at your leisure.

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I believe in equality of all the 4 nation states, but why make them holidays? it just a pointless waste of money.
OK. Let's just get rid of St. Georges Day then, but I suppose that would be communist.

Talking of which...the minimum wage he pledged to raise....to £10 an hour...thats even worse than Wynne's $15 an hour!! Its ridiculous! Thats pretty communist! Id like to clarify that I call extreme socialism the modern communism, I suppose its my way of being a little sarcastic.
So now Premier Wynne is a communist too? It's everywhere! Get under your bed, the Reds are coming!
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How the hell does that make him a communist in ANY sense of the word. I know I didn't go to University, only made it through Grammar school, but that definitely did not come up when we were studying political systems.
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