Country Canadian vs City Canadian
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I suggest that my stance is not motivated by racism but irritation. This society is a multi-culture, the state does not deem it better to be a Muslim than a Jew, brown than white, all cultures should be respected. The maintenance of a different status for one ethnic group, subsidised to live in homelands but effectively forced to live in those homelands, is in conflict with the idea of equality of cultures. I grant that not all reservations are Davis Inlet and admire the acumen of some BC bands. Nonetheless, the status of the aboriginal people is an anomaly in the modern world; they don't fit with Canada.
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It’s not about wanting to live in the past any more than you want to live in the Stone Ages. It’s about holding Canada accountable for the trauma of the genocide that is still happening against a race of people. It’s about institutionalized racism that is still entrenched in society that you and I are oblivious to because we’re not indigenous. Did you know that South African apartheid was modelled after Canada?
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I think it would be good to be heading in that direction, but it would take decades and to implement and would have to be accepted by the indigenous people. The problem I see is that it's heading the other way. Your view?
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It’s not about wanting to live in the past any more than you want to live in the Stone Ages. It’s about holding Canada accountable for the trauma of the genocide that is still happening against a race of people. It’s about institutionalized racism that is still entrenched in society that you and I are oblivious to because we’re not indigenous. Did you know that South African apartheid was modelled after Canada?
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What do you see as a solution? Perhaps government funding could be phased out over a fifty year period? I think special commercial rights within municipalities is an issue too. I think there's more than irritation to this, there's a need to find a coherent settlement for the tribes that doesn't work against their own futures, as well as the country's future.
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I have seen that claimed on these threads before but think it unlikely to be true.
#38
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Yes, phasing out would make sense but I see the central problem as being one of location. An urban minority might be targeted for educational programs with the hope that, in a generation, that minority has succeeded and blended into society as a whole. A dispersed population is more problematic. That issue was resolved in Newfoundland but making life untenable for people living where the government didn't want them to be. Closing down the schools, for example, forced parents to move to cities. The systemic racism mentioned in the next post discourages governments from pursuing urbanisation for the native population; paying them to live in their homelands avoids having to deal with the problems arising from clashes with the rest of the population.
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I live in the country. Once, when I was in a car crash, I went to the nearest farm house. The people there spoke what turned out to be Danish. I sat for a while in a police car, chatting. The cop lamented the perception that there's no diversity in the country "even the white people are all from different places".
Yesterday I went to the feed store where the friendly, historically Swiss but not really of this world, Mennonite woman served me. Today I went to the dentist in the nearby town. She’s from Vietnam and was assisted by a Romanian. I was referred to her by the regular dentist, an Iranian who has a Chinese assistant, a receptionist from Afghanistan and a Polish hygienist. I’m mulling having a haircut, the barber’s from Iraq as is the owner of the coffee shop I favour.
There are few people in the office, it being Friday. I’ve spoken to a chap from Dubai, an Indian and a Filipino. A cradle did stop by with a technical question and I spoke to another one about old motorcycles. A Korean, who has a child with a Cuban, popped up in a chat window to tell me we’re having lunch next week with a Russian and an African as well as the Scottish woman. Disappointingly, I haven’t seen the Peruvian of Japanese descent today, he’s kind of an ethnic trump card.
I wonder how you find enough Canadians to form an opinion about them; are you counting everyone who has a Canadian passport?
Yesterday I went to the feed store where the friendly, historically Swiss but not really of this world, Mennonite woman served me. Today I went to the dentist in the nearby town. She’s from Vietnam and was assisted by a Romanian. I was referred to her by the regular dentist, an Iranian who has a Chinese assistant, a receptionist from Afghanistan and a Polish hygienist. I’m mulling having a haircut, the barber’s from Iraq as is the owner of the coffee shop I favour.
There are few people in the office, it being Friday. I’ve spoken to a chap from Dubai, an Indian and a Filipino. A cradle did stop by with a technical question and I spoke to another one about old motorcycles. A Korean, who has a child with a Cuban, popped up in a chat window to tell me we’re having lunch next week with a Russian and an African as well as the Scottish woman. Disappointingly, I haven’t seen the Peruvian of Japanese descent today, he’s kind of an ethnic trump card.
I wonder how you find enough Canadians to form an opinion about them; are you counting everyone who has a Canadian passport?
The opinon I have formed to start this thread has been formed through meeting and talking with born and bred Canadians....not Canadian passport holders. I have spent time in the country and spent time in the city, and I find them very different people that have no desire to learn about the other' way of life. I don't think this applies so much to immigrants to Canada, as like myself I am keen to assimilate into Canadian culture so end up being a little bit of both. of course thats not always the case, but immigrants who choose their preferred lifestyle don't seem to be as critical on how others live theirs....
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I don't know how you find enough to form an opinion about them. Do you belong the Legion or a lawn bowling club, something like that?
#41
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The Masonic Lodge has lots of them as well. Head to a small town hockey rink on a Saturday morning or a Tim Horton's in a small town, a Don Cherry's when the Stanley Cup Playoffs are on and you may find a born and bred Canadian in his/her natural setting.
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I now live not far out of Toronto, so as a result spend more time in downtown Toronto, and city people are like different set of people....feels like Im in a different country...even though country and city are both Canadians born and bred,
And yes...I have visited a few legions in small town Canada in my past too! lol
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I lived in Peterborough for 9 years...that gives you a good idea of what born and bred country Canadians are like, very friendly people, but as I said some can have blinkered views on things.
I now live not far out of Toronto, so as a result spend more time in downtown Toronto, and city people are like different set of people....feels like Im in a different country...even though country and city are both Canadians born and bred,
And yes...I have visited a few legions in small town Canada in my past too! lol
I now live not far out of Toronto, so as a result spend more time in downtown Toronto, and city people are like different set of people....feels like Im in a different country...even though country and city are both Canadians born and bred,
And yes...I have visited a few legions in small town Canada in my past too! lol
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I lived in Peterborough for 9 years...that gives you a good idea of what born and bred country Canadians are like, very friendly people, but as I said some can have blinkered views on things.
I now live not far out of Toronto, so as a result spend more time in downtown Toronto, and city people are like different set of people....feels like Im in a different country...even though country and city are both Canadians born and bred,
And yes...I have visited a few legions in small town Canada in my past too! lol
I now live not far out of Toronto, so as a result spend more time in downtown Toronto, and city people are like different set of people....feels like Im in a different country...even though country and city are both Canadians born and bred,
And yes...I have visited a few legions in small town Canada in my past too! lol
#45
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Given a work opportunity I would probably move back to Peterborough, having lived in the city environment for well over a year now.