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scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2021 12:46 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12958507)
Is it not just a store - usually big ones - that sells stuff in big boxes?
Appliances, lawn mowers, flatpack furniture, computers, DIY stuff and larger DIY tools etc

It's also stores like Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Super Store, Canadin Tire, Lowes, most grocery chains, etc,

Teaandtoday5 Jan 14th 2021 12:53 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12958478)
Some doctors who don't think rules apply to them jumping the que in Vancouver.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ueue-1.5872213

can’t believe anyone would think any frontline medical/nursing/Pam/ambulance staff don’t deserve and need a place right at the front of the queue.

Siouxie Jan 14th 2021 1:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12958523)
can’t believe anyone would think any frontline medical/nursing/Pam/ambulance staff don’t deserve and need a place right at the front of the queue.

Reading the news item, apparently they queue jumped to receive the 2nd dose, not the first - and that is what has got the ministry up in arms.


"Through the system, it has come to our attention that there have been instances in which physicians have attended our clinics and received the second dose of vaccine before they were invited or permitted to do so. These instances will be investigated and may result in disciplinary action."

The memo says that at the direction of the provincial health officer and the Health Ministry, first doses are being offered only to high-priority health-care workers and vulnerable people and that a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine will be administered at about 35 days.

Siouxie Jan 14th 2021 3:01 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I tracked down the legal document detailing what you are permitted to do during the 'stay at home order' Ontario, for anyone who might be interested. (opens in new tab - no download should be necessary)
https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021...
:)

Gozit Jan 14th 2021 3:38 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12958549)
I tracked down the legal document detailing what you are permitted to do during the 'stay at home order' Ontario, for anyone who might be interested. (opens in new tab - no download should be necessary)
https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021...
:)

Seems like a lot of vague, fishy exceptions/loopholes there. I really wish they would've done something stricter (that would guaranteed accomplish something), or just done nothing at all. :(

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2021 7:05 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hopefully some more doses arrive in BC, we are running low with 89% of the received doses having been administered as of today's update.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...82fb36abfa.png

Jingsamichty Jan 14th 2021 7:38 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I always thought 'big box stores' were called that because they looked like a big ugly box in the parking lot... no architectural or aesthetic consideration whatsoever, just a functional temple to consumerism.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2021 6:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
By the end of the week, nearly all long term care residents and staff in Vancouver Coastal Health will have received their first dose of vaccine.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/01...id-19-vaccine/

Revin Kevin Jan 14th 2021 7:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12958532)
Reading the news item, apparently they queue jumped to receive the 2nd dose, not the first - and that is what has got the ministry up in arms.

Over here on Jeremy Vine today they were discussing the 2nd shots question. Apparently the Phizer vaccine gives you 90% immunity with the 1st dose and only an extra 5% with the 2nd shot. A doctor was arguing that all NHS staff should have both shots within 3 weeks recommended by Phizer and not have to wait the 12 weeks as HM Gov now want. The Gov say they want to get the 1st shot and therefore the 90% immunity into as many people as possible before starting the 2nd doses which kind makes a lot of sense to me looking at it in terms of bang for your buck.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2021 8:54 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC seeking legal advice to see if they can restrict travel to BC from elsewhere in Canada.

British Columbia’s premier says his government is seeking legal advice on whether it can limit non-essential travel from people out of province during the pandemic.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...travel-horgan/

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 14th 2021 9:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12959066)
BC seeking legal advice to see if they can restrict travel to BC from elsewhere in Canada.

British Columbia’s premier says his government is seeking legal advice on whether it can limit non-essential travel from people out of province during the pandemic.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...travel-horgan/

They want to build a wall?

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2021 9:05 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12959075)
They want to build a wall?

Probably not a wall, I imagine if its permitted it will be restrictions on flights and putting RCMP on the highways bordering Alberta. But then how does one prove their travel is essential and what is considered essential? The whole essential thing is confusing as there are too many definitions on what is and isn't essential.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 14th 2021 9:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12959077)
Probably not a wall, I imagine if its permitted it will be restrictions on flights and putting RCMP on the highways bordering Alberta. But then how does one prove their travel is essential and what is considered essential? The whole essential thing is confusing as there are too many definitions on what is and isn't essential.

Well New York allows essential workers and all you need to do is say you are an essential worker. There are all sorts of definitions of what constitutes an essential worker. That is for travel by air, friends stayed in Manhattan a couple of weeks ago and no restrictions by road.

I guess such restrictions may put off a few, not quite what impact it has is another matter.

Probably needs to be Internal Passports to make this work.

BristolUK Jan 14th 2021 9:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12958520)
It's also stores like Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Super Store, Canadin Tire, Lowes, most grocery chains, etc,

Yeah, that's what I mean. They also sell stuff in big boxes. TVs, saucepan sets, bathroom stuff...

BristolUK Jan 14th 2021 9:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12958990)
Over here on Jeremy Vine today they were discussing the 2nd shots question. Apparently the Phizer vaccine gives you 90% immunity with the 1st dose and only an extra 5% with the 2nd shot. A doctor was arguing that all NHS staff should have both shots within 3 weeks recommended by Phizer and not have to wait the 12 weeks as HM Gov now want. The Gov say they want to get the 1st shot and therefore the 90% immunity into as many people as possible before starting the 2nd doses which kind makes a lot of sense to me looking at it in terms of bang for your buck.

That was essentially the same case made in Quebec except the figures I heard were 92% and then 95% with the second.
If it's all true, and the first dose doesn't 'wear off' before the second one saves it, it hardly seems worth the second one.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 14th 2021 11:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
South African variant found, the person has no travelled and has not been linked to anyone who travelled, investigation continues in trying to figure out how the person was exposed to it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...n-14-1.5873879


Danny B Jan 15th 2021 12:10 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12959139)
South African variant found, the person has no travelled and has not been linked to anyone who travelled, investigation continues in trying to figure out how the person was exposed to it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...n-14-1.5873879

Well so far we have a European, S.American, and African variant.

Still waiting for the N.America, Asia, & Australia variant to be found :p

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 15th 2021 1:17 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Started with Wuhan

withabix Jan 15th 2021 1:46 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12959139)
South African variant found, the person has no travelled and has not been linked to anyone who travelled, investigation continues in trying to figure out how the person was exposed to it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...n-14-1.5873879


They probably lied.

Like the two on Vancouver Island, who said they didn’t have contact with their relative who returned from the UK during their quarantine...

You don’t want Covid. Someone at work was an asymptomatic spreader and gave it to 8 of us, along with their own wife, who sadly died over Christmas 😢

I passed it on to my wife, but we’ve both recovered, apart from still being left very tired all the time and the odd dizzy spell (which went on for 2 weeks after I was better).

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 15th 2021 2:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 12959166)
They probably lied.

Like the two on Vancouver Island, who said they didn’t have contact with their relative who returned from the UK during their quarantine...

You don’t want Covid. Someone at work was an asymptomatic spreader and gave it to 8 of us, along with their own wife, who sadly died over Christmas 😢

I passed it on to my wife, but we’ve both recovered, apart from still being left very tired all the time and the odd dizzy spell (which went on for 2 weeks after I was better).

Sorry to hear about your co-workers wife, that must be tough. Glad your out of the woods but sucks you still feeling down and under the weather.

My sister was an asymptomatic carrier, she showed 0 symptoms and had no known contact with anyone who was positive, but her husband 1 of 2 kids, and most of her office are linked to her, fortunately nobody in the cluster linked to her died. Her husband was hospitalized, then on oxygen for a couple more weeks. came close to going to ICU a couple times, lost 100 pounds since then, and has what doctors believe will be long term if not permanent lung damage and hasn't worked since as his job was in a warehouse and he has trouble breathing and some other issues that don't mesh with working in a warehouse.

Their kid that was ill was very mild, basically just a runny nose, the youngest 11 or 12 never showed symptoms or tested positive so as far as they know the youngest never had it.

I pretty much hermit at home and rarely venture out, I don't want to end up with it, and my wife is high risk, so yea we pretty much limit our outings to one day per week just for some essentials.

caretaker Jan 15th 2021 7:05 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Here's the Sask update. They were showing distribution of active cases on the news this morning, and the northern communities are way ahead. Overcrowded housing the prime culprit, and that's why vaccinating up there is a priority. After the most at risk and front line all get theirs, people over 70 are next in line which puts me in the tier after that, the over 65's.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...8d3bb1258.jpeg

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 15th 2021 9:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
This certainly wont help to speed up vaccine administration in Canada in the short term, Pfizer is reducing its production in Belgium so they can expand their manufacturing capacity, in the short term over the next 4 weeks Canada will see a 50% cut in doses, with week of January 25 only planned to received 25% of what was expected.

Long term the slow down in production will allow Pfizer to increase capacity.

Canada has tried to negotiate an alternative with Pfizer so a delay would not occur asking if Canada could receive doses from the plant in Michigan, however the doses produced their are allotted to the US domestic supply.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pfi...ries-1.5874645




While not approved yet, Johnson & Johnson is reported to have hit some snags in manufacturing which could put them as much as 2 months behind schedule.

I can't find much of anything as to AstraZeneca in Canada or US, neither have approved it yet.



Danny B Jan 15th 2021 10:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
These people are scum of the earth

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-55680856

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 15th 2021 11:23 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
7 day average for BC on a graph over time.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...a431556235.png

caretaker Jan 16th 2021 1:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Saskatchewan now leads the country in per-capita cases. We're #1!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ysis-1.5874834

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 16th 2021 1:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Seems Ireland has gone from nowhere to World No 1.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 16th 2021 9:32 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Spotted by a friend who lives in Nanaimo

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...8e28dd9eb8.jpg

Danny B Jan 18th 2021 5:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
UK currently has highest daily death rate per person in world :eek:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...50f359e130.jpg

spouse of scouse Jan 18th 2021 5:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12960669)
UK currently has highest daily death rate per person in world :eek:

Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

Danny B Jan 18th 2021 6:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

The graph I shared was data from the last 7 days, that may explain the difference and huge increase.

Revin Kevin Jan 18th 2021 6:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

That BBC report says Cambodia has zero cases of covid out of a population of 16 million - surely can't be right🤔

BristolUK Jan 18th 2021 6:43 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12960669)
UK currently has highest daily death rate per person in world :eek:


Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.

I can't speak for everyone but I think I can only die once.
I'm trying not to find out yet though. :lol:

Danny B Jan 18th 2021 6:53 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12960720)
That BBC report says Cambodia has zero cases of covid out of a population of 16 million - surely can't be right🤔

Thailand did it right, those stats are absolutely amazing considering their population.

Shard Jan 18th 2021 9:53 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12960726)
Thailand did it right, those stats are absolutely amazing considering their population.

Indeed. It's a virus elimination strategy (zero tolerance) rather than a virus control strategy. Even China has frankly done a far better job of handling the virus than many Western countries. The issue seems to be that they treated it like a SARS virus (which they experience before) whereas Western countries assumed it was a flu-like virus. Also, Trump didn't help, he introduced so much doubt and disorder into the debate, that virus was able to establish itself strongly in the US and countries that take note of the US (Canada, UK). Australia has done fairly well too.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 18th 2021 11:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
So how did it boom in Italy, Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal etc?

Shard Jan 18th 2021 11:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12960824)
So how did it boom in Italy, Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal etc?

Transmission between individuals who are not taking adequate precautions or keeping social distance. Not rocket science.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 19th 2021 4:07 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12960830)
Transmission between individuals who are not taking adequate precautions or keeping social distance. Not rocket science.


Expatrick Jan 19th 2021 8:56 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105

Just wait until the data comes in tonight & tomorrow, picking up the weekend's missing data.

Expatrick Jan 19th 2021 9:02 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Deaths per million, whole pandemic -

UK: 1341
US: 1212
EU27/EEA: 892


Expatrick Jan 19th 2021 9:19 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
CNN also use John Hopkins data, which is often different to the CDC data which is different to the Worldometer data...

UK data is within 28 days of positive test, ie up to 23:59 on D28, should you die 2 minutes later at 00:01 on D29, tough, and if your D28 falls on a weekend equally tough.

Which is why I am a tad cynical about the vaccination rate (but hope to be wrong).


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