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caretaker Nov 9th 2020 9:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Historical active case count in Regina:
The historical active case count (select dates only) in Regina was Date - active case count
2020-09-01 - 1
2020-09-16 - 13
2020-10-01 - 34
2020-10-16 - 57
2020-11-01 - 143
2020-11-02 - 157
2020-11-03 - 152
2020-11-04 - 149
2020-11-05 - 159
2020-11-06 - 165
2020-11-07 - 204
2020-11-08 - 227
2020-11-09 - 252


Danny B Nov 9th 2020 9:41 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12933712)
Historical active case count in Regina:
The historical active case count (select dates only) in Regina was Date - active case count
2020-09-01 - 1
2020-09-16 - 13
2020-10-01 - 34
2020-10-16 - 57
2020-11-01 - 143
2020-11-02 - 157
2020-11-03 - 152
2020-11-04 - 149
2020-11-05 - 159
2020-11-06 - 165
2020-11-07 - 204
2020-11-08 - 227
2020-11-09 - 252

How many of those cases have caused people to go to hospital or resulted in their death? To me, those are the important numbers.

I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the virus, but my brother in law lives in Brampton Ontario, and has somehow caught COVID. He is 49, tall and skinny, fit as a fiddle and said the worst thing about it is not being able to taste or smell. He had a high temperature for 2 days and felt run down but otherwise he said things were OK. Fingers crossed he makes a full recovery and there are no issues later on in life. That is my main worry right now.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 9th 2020 10:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12933717)
How many of those cases have caused people to go to hospital or resulted in their death? To me, those are the important numbers.

I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the virus, but my brother in law lives in Brampton Ontario, and has somehow caught COVID. He is 49, tall and skinny, fit as a fiddle and said the worst thing about it is not being able to taste or smell. He had a high temperature for 2 days and felt run down but otherwise he said things were OK. Fingers crossed he makes a full recovery and there are no issues later on in life. That is my main worry right now.


My sister's husband is a year or 2 younger than 49, but he had the opposite experience of your BIL, but mine isn't fit as a fiddle so I am sure that played a role. 5 days in hospital, a couple weeks on oxygen, basically sick most of October, and still not back to full normal, and potentially has permanent lung damage.

Now my sister though, she never tested positive or showed symptoms, but did have antibodies, so the theory public health has, is my sister was asymptomatic and spreading it.



scrubbedexpat091 Nov 9th 2020 10:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Last update in BC was Saturday at 1pm, today's update was 998 new cases, 133 hospitalizations, and 5 deaths. Hospitalizations are up around 30 since Saturday.

737 are in Fraser Health and 210 are in Vancouver Coastal Health.

Hospitalizations highest since April 13 and ICU admissions highest since April 23.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7452362/b...te-november-9/



macadian Nov 10th 2020 12:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
How's the vaccination for 'stupid' coming along?
Seems much of the foregoing can be attributed to this human malaise......

Gozit Nov 10th 2020 10:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12933939)
How's the vaccination for 'stupid' coming along?
Seems much of the foregoing can be attributed to this human malaise......

What i'd like to know is where the vaccine for the type of stupidity that seems to be pervase in China that gets this crap out into the world. Because if there was such a thing, we wouldn't be in this mess.

printer Nov 10th 2020 11:38 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 12934294)
What i'd like to know is where the vaccine for the type of stupidity that seems to be pervase in China that gets this crap out into the world. Because if there was such a thing, we wouldn't be in this mess.

And how is China getting along these days? We seem to be getting little to no information on the news about China and the virus, it's like they do not have it and are carrying on as normal while the rest of the world ponders how long the next lock down should be.

Gozit Nov 11th 2020 12:08 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12934308)
And how is China getting along these days? We seem to be getting little to no information on the news about China and the virus, it's like they do not have it and are carrying on as normal while the rest of the world ponders how long the next lock down should be.

Fair point. Even if they report that everything is fine I am reluctant to believe them. They are not above lying to other countries to save face.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 11th 2020 12:55 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hospitalizations up 50% in BC vs 1 week ago.


caretaker Nov 11th 2020 5:44 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...ec75b32922.jpg

Jerseygirl Nov 11th 2020 4:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Record high 1,426 cases yesterday and 15 deaths in Ontario. Toronto 384. 36,700 people tested.

Shard Nov 11th 2020 6:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Record high deaths in UK today: 595.
Cumulative now above 50,000.


scrubbedexpat091 Nov 11th 2020 8:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The parks manager in Kimberley, B.C has resigned from his position in part due to bullying and harassment from the public due to recreational facilities being closed due to the pandemic.

Can't say I blame him.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...tion-1.5797808

abner Nov 12th 2020 6:24 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12933717)
How many of those cases have caused people to go to hospital or resulted in their death? To me, those are the important numbers.

I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of the virus, but my brother in law lives in Brampton Ontario, and has somehow caught COVID. He is 49, tall and skinny, fit as a fiddle and said the worst thing about it is not being able to taste or smell. He had a high temperature for 2 days and felt run down but otherwise he said things were OK. Fingers crossed he makes a full recovery and there are no issues later on in life. That is my main worry right now.

Hospitalizations and death from Covid-19 are trailing indicators, by several weeks in each case.

There have been some improvements in survivability for Covid-19 cases, but the hospitalization and death counts still unfortunately rise as new case counts rise, with a lag of a few weeks.

Revin Kevin Nov 12th 2020 12:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12933939)
How's the vaccination for 'stupid' coming along?
Seems much of the foregoing can be attributed to this human malaise......

I am assuming the stupid vaccination is for the government that ruined a generation of kids education, torched the economy and plunged the country into levels of debt that our great grandchildren will still be paying off when they retire aged 90! Agreed it's not great for those touched by Covid but 50,000 dead (within 28 days of a covid diagnosis) most of whom sadly would have died in the near future anyway is a tiny number out of 70m. To most people catching covid is pretty much a non event and more an inconvenience than anything but the eventual reckoning to come is going to be so much worse. One of my kids had it and recovered and only found out though having an antibody test for work. Another currently has it together with her partner who live with us, they felt a bit under the weather for a few days but it's the time off work which will affect them more plus the inconvenience to the rest of the family thet we are all having now to isolate. Lucklily my wife and I work from home, unluckily we are both classed as high risk so yes it might not be great if either of us got it but the chances are we would be just fine so we kick on and try and keep our tiny cog in the economy going.

BristolUK Nov 12th 2020 1:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
@ Revin Kevin
You speak as if unaware of 'long covid' and the recent research that found a fifth of 'recovered' patients have mental illness problems within 90 days (pretty astonishing when most people who've had it haven't reached that 90 day point yet)so how much worse might it get.

Plus that matter of hospitals not being able to cope with 'normal' health requirements while dealing with covid patients.

Have you also not noticed that every day sees record highs all over the place. Does that not indicate it's getting worse? And then there's the time lag of outcomes that abner mentioned.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 12th 2020 3:23 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
My BIL is over a month now since he tested positive, he is no longer positive and finally off supplemental oxygen, but he is still unable to do his usual activities, and even walking short distances puts him out of breath, and lung x-rays suggest he has permanent lung damage from it as well.

But then my sister was asymptomatic and spread it around, including most in her office.

There was a report of a 5 year old dying in the US recently, she died within 3 or so days of showing mild symptoms, no known underlying health conditions.

You just never know how its going to affect you, could be asymptomatic to dead.


Jerseygirl Nov 12th 2020 3:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12934596)
Record high 1,426 cases yesterday and 15 deaths in Ontario. Toronto 384. 36,700 people tested.

Up again...yesterday’s figures...1,575 new cases, 18 deaths. 472 new cases in Toronto.

Danny B Nov 12th 2020 4:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I had no idea things were so bad in Blighty :eek:

The UK has become the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 coronavirus deaths, coming after the US, Brazil, India and Mexico.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54905018


Jerseygirl Nov 12th 2020 4:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12935007)
I had no idea things were so bad in Blighty :eek:

The UK has become the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 coronavirus deaths, coming after the US, Brazil, India and Mexico.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54905018


It would be much better if the figures were per million. UK pop is almost 70K....US pop over 350 million.

Expatrick Nov 12th 2020 5:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12935014)
It would be much better if the figures were per million. UK pop is almost 70K....US pop over 350 million.

I posted this a couple of days ago -


While we cannot / must not be complacent I think we can take some consolation from the following published figures for deaths, as follows -

Hungary: 254 / million.
EU27/EEA: 432 / million.
UK: 732 / million.
US: >= 740 / million.

ETA: UK has just posted a record cases figure (up approx 50% on previous day). They are holding back on the death figure (usually posted at approx 17:00 GMT) - it has become quite common to delay figures, when they are bad.

Jerseygirl Nov 12th 2020 5:32 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12935028)
I posted this a couple of days ago -



US: >= 740 / million.

ETA: UK has just posted a record cases figure (up approx 50% on previous day). They are holding back on the death figure (usually posted at approx 17:00 GMT) - it has become quite common to delay figures, when they are bad.


Thank you. We need the total figures for each country but per million is gives a better perspective IMO.

Siouxie Nov 12th 2020 5:37 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I like this one for Canada > https://art-bd.shinyapps.io/covid19canada/
Looks like 2.8 deaths per million for us..

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e7207b1a72.jpg

Expatrick Nov 12th 2020 5:44 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12935045)
I like this one for Canada > https://art-bd.shinyapps.io/covid19canada/
Looks like 2.8 deaths per million for us..

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e7207b1a72.jpg

Sorry to burst your bubble but you need to move the decimal point one place to the right.
(Still a lot better than many Countries)

Sorry, 2 places to the right!

Siouxie Nov 12th 2020 5:48 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12935048)
Sorry to burst your bubble but you need to move the decimal point one place to the right.
(Still a lot better than many Countries)

Sorry, 2 places to the right!

Thanks!! :goodpost: :lol:
Population of Canada - 37.59 million (2019) divided by number of deaths - 10,739. (Wishful thinking, perhaps) :o
Despite working in accountancy and book-keeping waaaay back, numbers are obviously not my forte!! LOL!!
Wooops!!! I'm a wally :D https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...ffc8ad1ec8.jpg

Expatrick Nov 12th 2020 5:50 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12935053)
:lol:
Woops!!! I realised after I had posted.. I moved it left instead of right, LOL! (Wishful thinking, perhaps) :o

Easy mistake when there are so many damn noughts!

Shard Nov 12th 2020 9:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12935007)
I had no idea things were so bad in Blighty :eek:

The UK has become the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 coronavirus deaths, coming after the US, Brazil, India and Mexico.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54905018

UK
22,000 cases yesterday ....
33,000 cases today. :blink:


scrubbedexpat091 Nov 12th 2020 9:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Small outbreak at Nanaimo Hospital. 5 staff members so far infected. They believe they know the source and wasn't a patient, and is linked to the Lower Mainland.

Possibly a staff member who went to the lower mainland?

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/n...alth-1.5186217


BC didn't report numbers yesterday, so I imagine today's might very well be over 1,000 since the last day reported was Tuesday with 525, so 1,000+ reported today wouldn't be too radical a guess.


Updated: 1,130 new cases.

155 in hospital.

4 deaths since Tuesday. 3 in long term care homes, and 1 was a community death.

bats Nov 12th 2020 10:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12934883)
I am assuming the stupid vaccination is for the government that ruined a generation of kids education, torched the economy and plunged the country into levels of debt that our great grandchildren will still be paying off when they retire aged 90! Agreed it's not great for those touched by Covid but 50,000 dead (within 28 days of a covid diagnosis) most of whom sadly would have died in the near future anyway is a tiny number out of 70m. To most people catching covid is pretty much a non event and more an inconvenience than anything but the eventual reckoning to come is going to be so much worse. One of my kids had it and recovered and only found out though having an antibody test for work. Another currently has it together with her partner who live with us, they felt a bit under the weather for a few days but it's the time off work which will affect them more plus the inconvenience to the rest of the family thet we are all having now to isolate. Lucklily my wife and I work from home, unluckily we are both classed as high risk so yes it might not be great if either of us got it but the chances are we would be just fine so we kick on and try and keep our tiny cog in the economy going.

Well that's alright then. What's your formula for assessing whose life is worth saving? You've said that you and your wife are high risk so that must must you fairly high up on the sacrifice scale.? Still your noble efforts to save the economy might score you a few points.

Shard Nov 12th 2020 11:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
For those that see "a bit of death" as a necessary hardship to keep the economy open, I wonder how high the deaths can be. We're at 50K in the UK, many seem untroubled by it, what about 100K? 200K, higher? Or would concern only arise when the infection level reached a point where hospitals were unable to cope? The irony is that if infection levels increased much further, the economy would collapse regardless of any government intervention. Collapse further, that is.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 13th 2020 12:26 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Visual for BC

Cumulative total and totals for last 14 days broken down by region. (only behind spoiler as it loads kind of big.)



printer Nov 13th 2020 12:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12935158)
For those that see "a bit of death" as a necessary hardship to keep the economy open, I wonder how high the deaths can be. We're at 50K in the UK, many seem untroubled by it, what about 100K? 200K, higher? Or would concern only arise when the infection level reached a point where hospitals were unable to cope? The irony is that if infection levels increased much further, the economy would collapse regardless of any government intervention. Collapse further, that is.

Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

old.sparkles Nov 13th 2020 1:31 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12935167)
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

Can you add the link to the article?

bats Nov 13th 2020 1:50 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12935167)
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

what does it make you think?

Siouxie Nov 13th 2020 5:02 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 12935171)
Can you add the link to the article?

https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/ne...ts-and-figures
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
:)

Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)

In 1961, more than half of all deaths in the UK were attributed to heart and circulatory diseases (320,000 deaths)

printer Nov 13th 2020 5:27 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12935204)
https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/ne...ts-and-figures
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
:)

Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)

Thanks beat me to it.

BEVS Nov 13th 2020 5:36 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12935181)
what does it make you think?


It makes me think that the two do not correlate at all.

One is a new unleashed highly contagious disease which others can give you & which quick preventative measures & highlighting right here and now , right up there daily in your face, might be able to save people.

The other is a known issue (s) due to several factors, none of which are infectious.

The first needs quick reporting, highlighting and a mandate to keep on keeping on reminding people that there are quick easy steps to limit possible infection to oneself and others. It is fast spreading and so the need for this to be plastered everywhere , consistently.

The second with its risk factors has been known & publicised for many decades. Smoking. Alcohol. Overweight. Diet. Hereditary in some cases where the previous are not really a factor. Who doesn't know that smoking, drinking, diet, weight can lead to heart and circulatory issues. Everyone does even if in denial. We all know.

With this Covid19, it is hitting all ages and all people silently, invisibly and deadly. The youngest of which has been a newborn babe.

That is why the need to try and motivate people to understand what this virus can do and quickly . To keep plugging the message into deaf ears. The other message about heart disease , stroke, circulatory ldisease has been out there for many decades now and it is up to an individual if they take that on board or not. They kill themselves in that, not others.

Jingsamichty Nov 13th 2020 7:15 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I think one of the key factors in the UK (and possibly also the US) death toll is just how unhealthy the majority of Brits are. Most are overweight, completely unfit, and exist on a diet of junk food. It really wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge into serious respiratory illness.

Shard Nov 13th 2020 10:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12935167)
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

Heart disease is not infectious. Why do people not understand the concept of a virus ??

Shard Nov 13th 2020 10:44 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 12935220)
I think one of the key factors in the UK (and possibly also the US) death toll is just how unhealthy the majority of Brits are. Most are overweight, completely unfit, and exist on a diet of junk food. It really wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge into serious respiratory illness.

30% of deaths under 49 had no pre-existing conditions (Sky News) not sure if that included obesity or not.


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