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The 20-29 age group is the biggest spreader of the virus in BC, this is also the age group that wants less restrictions, but guess what is going to happen now, yep most likely more restrictions and more enforcement because our active cases are at an all time high, Saturday we saw the single most cases on a single day since this thing has happened, we are lucky right now that contact tracing is working, but more enforcement is going to be happening soon.

Hanging out in groups, and having parties isn't the road to less restrictions its the road to more of them, and an ever increasing number of cases, sure those young folks are at lowest risk of death, but they then go to work or school home to parent or grand parents who are vulnerable.

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:goodpost:
Exactly this!

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I have stayed friends with her and her family - I have knows them for years- she is not the most intelligent of people, in fact she is thick as a plank, which is why I reached out to her to let her know! She sent me a message later after she had read the link I gave her about 'Social Circles' and said that she genuinely did not know nor understand the constraints that Ontario have for 'social circles' - and thanked me...... and said she hadn't realised she was putting her Mother and several other members of her family at risk... but would not be taking that risk again.

Sorry but some people have different cognitive abilities / understanding and higher (or lower) intelligence and more (or less) common sense than others........ :D

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Fair enough, I guess some people are just plain ignorant rather than educating themselves on the facts and making an informed decision on what they wish to do :)

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And, for the record, I don't think there is any way to enforce this "social circle" thing. It's up to people whether they want to follow the guidelines or not, just like everything else in life.

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Lucky me. I am having a COVID test today in 2 hours. I had a cough the last couple of days, sore throat this morning, and some nose congestion, called the urgent care place spoke to the person there who did a phone assessment, and well until the test comes back, I am considered positive and other then going out for the test at 1pm, have to self isolate until the test results come back, which take 1-4 days on average according to urgent care place, also means my wife has to self isolate as well, hopefully it comes back negative and its just a cold or allergies.

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Sorry to hear that Jsmth.

Personally I will not be getting tested unless it's required to travel.

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I was trying to put it off in hopes it was just allergy, but its 4 days now so I called the urgent care where the testing is done and did their screening and they said testing should be done based on the symptoms I am having.

The test itself isn't horrible, not something I would want to do everyday, more discomfort than pain, the nurse sticks it up the nose, twists it around for 10 seconds, and done.

Total time from arriving to leaving about 35 minutes, most of that time is just waiting to register and get the COVID test package and then wait until a nurse calls your name.

Those with a positive test will be notified by public health, those with a negative test can call a phone number, have a text, or check online after 72 hours to confirm negative test results. Until results are back, the person is presumed positive.

Test goes to Vancouver for testing, looks like turn around time is about 30 hours for interior health the last little bit, so I figure probably know by Friday most likely.

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When my co-worker was tested in Regina about a month ago it took about 2 days for results. Obviously 30 hrs isn't as good as 3 hrs, but could be worse I suppose. I've been thinking about getting tested just because we have open testing here now, but will probably wait a bit.

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My SD had her (negative) result the same day (on line) from a 10.00am appointment.
Biggest issue was not using public transport to get there. Two buses needed anyway. Half hour walk, she said. Looked much further and way beyond me.

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These little cubiclettes are being made to fit school desks:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...7f769214d4.jpg

https://leaderpost.com/business/loca...-6a737c56c91a/

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It's the same here no public transit, no taxis, no uber etc, its hard for those who don't drive to get tested.

If we didn't have a car, I don't know where I would have gotten tested as its not really within walking distance as it's 15km each way from the apartment, and google says 3 hour 10 min each way, not exactly nearby.

But maybe doctors offices can do it, I dunno, don't have a GP yet and I just went where I was told to go..

Being new to Interior Health, my email isn't on file so I can't check online, I tried to sign up for online but say's I need to add my email to my medical record at one of their facilities, too bad nobody mentioned this during registration part.....:lol:

But I did sign up for text message for negative result, so as long as that service works, I should know at some point.

Using the BC CDC dash board looks like the last few days the turn around time is around 30 hours, so maybe tomorrow I will know.

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Keeping everything crossed for you......

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Hospitalizations are up a bit but today's cases is slightly lower but one day does not make a trend.

63 new cases, 798 active cases and 10 in hospital.

Looks like testing capacity has been increased to 8,000 per day, and new testing sites added due to demand in Vancouver Coastal and Fraser Health.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...t-19-1.5692680

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Ben and I got tested a couple of weeks ago as I was feeling a bit under the weather, was super impressed with the set up, and the fact it took less than 24 ours to get the (thankfully negative) results.
Entertainment in the line up was provided by Ben doing Zombie impressions

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I'm not worried about the actual test, I just don't want to self isolate for any reason, so I just won't ever get tested. I don't agree with the "positive until presumed negative" guilty until proven innocent trope.

Fingers crossed for a negative test result for you though :)

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This seems a giant step on from your understandable irritations on the travel/isolation issues.

It sounds like even if you have symptoms you would avoid having a test because by avoiding the test you would still be free to pass it around. :ohmy:

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If I got tested every time I had symptoms I would have been in isolation since June since I have summer allergies.

If I was legitimately sick I would stay home until symptoms pass but I don't like the idea of public health officials being up my ass and "checking in" all the time, so yes i would avoid the test as much as I can.

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Your attitude strikes me as 'rules are for others'. I think you need to take more of a collective approach to all of this. Trumpistan may be more to your liking.

If you won't get tested because that may mean that if positive you would have to self isolate seems a rather poor approach to all of this.

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There is no 'rule' that if you experience symptoms you must get tested. If you experience certain symptoms you just aren't allowed to enter certain premises and i'm happy to abide by that.

It's not the issue of if the test was positive I would have to self isolate, it is the issue of in between the test being conducted and the results coming through you have to self-isolate regardless and that could be anywhere from 2-5 days.

I also just don't see the point when it's likely my seasonal allergies or any other regular sickness you would get pre-covid. The notion that any symptom can possibly be covid is ridiculous. Despite the covid-19 pandemic the answer to all sickness isn't "get tested for covid".

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We had our 8 year old tested last week - she had a mild fever and some red marks on her fingers. Called 811 (Provincial Healthline), Got referred for a test at 4pm, result online 8AM next day & thankfully negative. (Red marks seemingly caused due to spending lots of time hanging on the edge of the swimming pool in preceding days!). Impressed by the speed of both accessing testing and getting results. Of course with 2 active cases in the entire province, test load is low at present. I imagine it would be rather different in a spike or second wave. Incidentally the 8 year old who was very calm about the whole thing ... "the test ticked daddy!".

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I know some places in the US rather than have a nurse or healthcare worker stick it up the nose, they have you do it yourself, to be honest, I don't think I could have done it myself very easily or gone deep enough, I wonder if there is a difference in accuracy with the testing healthcare workers doing the test vs self administered.

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The only DIY tests I heard about so far involved sticking it up the nose but only in the nose rather than further in.

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I'm really struggling to get past the fact that these posts basically state "I'm exhibiting COVID symptoms, but don't actually know, so I'll perpetually kid myself that it isn't COVID unless I get really ill - possibly spreading it to hundreds of other people because I don't want to self isolate because self isolating is isn't what I want to do or agree with."

Personally if i felt under the weather with COVID symptoms - I'd either self isolate or get tested, isn't this how we shut this thing down? if no one who has it spreads it, it effectively dies out. Whilst your own individual actions probably have little to no effect on overall stats, and at worst you might spread it to a couple of folk. Everyone having that collective opinion and acting upon it just turns Canada into America.

If I was to take that approach to drink driving mildly above the limit, (given my alcohol tolerance and prior experience at fine motor skills whilst intoxicated, 99.9% chance I'd be fine, but could possibly kill or injure others) but I'm not complying with the laws, because I don't want to walk home I'd be an asshole if I wasn't OK, and its also against the law. - So I don't do it.

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I am lucky in that I rarely ever get sick. I may catch a cold once or twice a year and have a runny nose, but that's about it. I have only ever had the real flu once in my life and I was out for a week. I have never had a flu jab.

I know my body very well and if anything didn't feel right, I would immediately seek medical advice. I would hope that others do the same.

The thing that scares me the most about the COVID spread is the asymptomatic spreaders. You can't really blame them for not getting tested if they feel 100% fine. I don't know what measures can be put in place to prevent asymptomatic super spreaders until it is too late.

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Just WOW. That's the most self centred attitude I have heard of late. Words fail me... or rather, I am so p'd off with that attitude that I daren't respond..

:goodpost:Exactly.

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I had a test last week....I felt really rough, I had a banging headache, body aches and an elevated temperature, but no cough or breathing issues. I was doubtful it was covid, but you never know, this virus seems to be as individual to each person as their finger prints! Plus to return to work I would have needed a test anyway. So got test. it was negative, so looks like it was a normal bout of 'flu took me out for best part of a week though and I rarely get sick, not even colds....one may start, but never manifest itself....but I got took down this time, at least it wasn't covid, cant afford to quarratine for two weeks.... I guess I would have to find some way to work from home until quarantine had elapsed. Anyway feeling much better now! :thumbsup:

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perhaps the ‘snowflake generation’ should be called the ‘selfish generation’.

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According to the sheet they handed out at the testing site, doesn't look like it's even 14 days of self isolation in BC if symptoms improve and its been at least 10 days.

The sheet says "After 10 days from onset of symptoms you may transition from self isolation to distancing if you have had no fever for 72 hours and symptoms have improved, coughing may persist for several weeks to months and does not mean the person is infectious and must self isolate."

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The difference is there are multiple alternatives to drink driving that are much safer and don't cause any inconvenience - hail a taxi, order an uber, call a friend for a ride home, call "keys please" or similar...they all cost a little money but are zero inconvenience to you. Before alot of those things came into place people were (unfortunately) ignoring drink driving laws too.

There is no alternative to self isolating if you have confirmed covid test or covid symptoms, and self isolating is just, well, inconvenient.

Asking someone to self isolate on the basis that they 'might' have covid is like asking someone to walk home in a pouring rainstorm because they had a sip of their spouse's beer at supper "just in case" they were over the drink drive limit, and took a breathalyser but that breathalyser would take 24-48 hours to actually spit out a result. That's my issue with the testing and then mandated self isolation until the results come back. There are tests where the results take 2-3 hours to come back so why not just use those?

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I guess it's how inconvenient you view self isolating? personally a 2 hour walk home, or 2 days stuck in my house is probably on a similar level.

Surely you can at least see the issue with what your saying though and how selfish it appears (even if it may be a poor choice of wording)?

We already know often this is asymptomatic, or people suffer only mild symptoms -so to stop the spread surely once displaying symptoms you should self isolate or get tested, as you cannot be sure your symptoms are an allergy (although I get you may be fairly confident off additional symptoms which aren't COVID like that its not - but you didn't say this) but with regards a seasonal flu like illness - you've got zero knowledge whether it is seasonal flu or COVID, so to do anything other than self isolate and/or get tested is pretty reckless.

Maybe I'm a little off in assuming how easy it is to self isolate for 2/3/4/5 days - as to me it would be a cake walk to do this repeatedly, especially if I was feeling under the weather and with the current way of the world etc. You may have some sort of medical or social issue that makes self isolation extremely hard for you, but none of your posts mention this and seems purely a "this is unconstitutional, the government can't make me stay inside for a few days"

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I mean clearly I view it as pretty inconvenient otherwise I wouldn't complain about it. I'm a "busy" person and I don't think I remember the last time I didn't leave the house at all, even at the beginning of all this when everything was closed I would at least go for a drive by myself to get out of the house, without stopping anywhere. But even that isn't allowed when you are on self isolation.

I've never had flu like symptoms since this started, fingers crossed... I know when my seasonal allergies are the worst (Aug-Oct.) and have discussed it with my GP and am on appropriate meds for it. If I did develop severe flu like symptoms I would definitely self isolate as much as possible until those symptoms cleared, but still wouldn't get tested. Again, don't want public health on my trail for weeks on end. Hell, up until a couple weeks ago any police officer could query name and DOB to see if a person had ever tested positive for COVID which is a massive privacy breach that was thankfully overturned in court. I don't trust what they are doing with the information. But it shouldn't matter whether or not I am included in a statistic so long as I take precautions to avoid spreading whatever illness I have to other people.

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You edited the last bit in while I was typing my post...yes i would say definitely a social issue, I don't do well by myself at all and wouldn't do well in a scenario where I couldn't leave my house for a certain period of time. Of course I know people where it would be a cakewalk, and people who have been doing it voluntarily except for essential outings ever since this began.

I've taken the whole thing pretty hard, up until June/July not really seeing much of friends, no social life/clubbing, and this will be the first year in 5 years I haven't spent a portion of the summer with family in Malta.

I only know of one person (a prof of mine) who has had COVID. No one in my immediate family or circle has had any symptoms or gotten tested so you could also say i'm pretty removed from the situation and from my perspective it's all a big deal over nothing since no one I really know personally has been affected by it.

I also live in a region of Ontario that has a fairly low number of cases. I'm outside of the GTA and Windsor-essex etc that have the majority of cases.

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But it sounds like you are not taking precautions to avoid spreading.
You're saying you'd only self isolate for severe flu-like symptoms and only self isolate until those severe symptoms cleared.
You might have covid and be infectious with less than severe symptoms and when those severe symptoms cleared you could still have covid and be infectious.

What would you think of a friend or colleague whose computer is showing symptoms of a possible virus but he wants to connect to your network? ;)

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You need a broader perspective than just your own. There are about 790,000 confirmed Covid deaths worldwide, never mind the others that have not been counted.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...aps-and-cases/

No social life or summer holidays is the least of anyone's worries. There are people whose family members have had to die alone in hospital because family members can't come in. Some have long-lasting serious health problems as a result of being ill. Others have lost their jobs and had their livelihoods destroyed. Some people are being evicted because they cannot pay. Others have been separated from the people they love for months, with no idea when that might change. Others have people they love at high risk, who have been hiding indoors for months. Others have not been able to receive medical treatment for cancer and other nasty diseases because they cannot use the hospitals.

It is not a big deal over nothing and it's not helpful to say that it is since that promotes the kind of behaviour that means that more people will die before a vaccine can be found. It also trivializes the situations of people who have been very severely impacted. The more all do, in every way, to slow the spread, the more people will be saved before a vaccine comes along.

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So from took about 23 hours to get my results, negative thankfully, so probably just a cold or something else.

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All good points. I didn't get to go visit my eldest sister this year because of covid (we're both in the at risk category) and because she isn't in great shape and is 10 years older than me I might never see her again.

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:thumbup:

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:thumbsup:
I hate summer colds

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Great news, I think - here's to a speedy recovery.

Still unsure if I was slightly under the weather right now whether I'd want it to be Covid or not - the obvious answer is no, but there would at least be some temporary safety and relief in catching it and having only mild symptoms as the immediate worry about being a silent spreader or suffering really bad from it would be done with.