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I guess less population density means the transmission risk is lower.

The inter-generational angst in Vancouver is understandable, although the sky high property prices are not directly their doing.

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• July 10 – Delta 3569 — Vancouver to Seattle
• July 11 – American Airlines 1415 — Dallas to Vancouver
• July 12 – Air Canada 214 — Vancouver to Calgary
• July 17 – Air Canada 855 — London to Vancouver

Most recent flights to/from Vancouver with possible COVID exposure.

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30 year old man in Toronto, finally awake and off ventilator. 59 days on the ventilator, lost 130 pounds. Other members of his family also had the virus but recovered.

Currently he is unable to walk, and has limited strength in his arms and will be discharged soon from hospital to a rehabilitation centre.

Article here.

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A comparison with Montreal and Toronto is interesting. Montreal's population is about two-thirds that of Toronto.
For population density per km2 Montreal is 3,889 and Toronto 4,334.
Montreal has a slightly smaller population density but has over 28,000 cases as opposed to Toronto's 15,000.

Is a crowded subway to blame? According to wiki, Toronto subway ridership is 1.58m while Montreal's is 1.367m. So even with that Montreal's figure is lower.

What are the reasons for Montreal having nearly twice as many cases?

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Ouch - waiting for the next increase in positive tests in BC :(

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No idea. Quebec being more tactile than Ontario? Timing of the initial infection, and timing of lockdown measures? Intergenerational households? Poutine?

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All those double/triple cheek kisses perhaps! :D

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It was my mother in law's birthday yesterday and she wanted Poutine for dinner. If that's the cause, one of us will be quarantined for a bit. :lol:

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Maybe French, when she is spoken, is more spitty?

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The Dutch must have no chance. :lol:

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Neither of them were a match for the Spitzkrieg.

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Or 'Flemish' speakers

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Fabulous. :thumbup: Who made it ?

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Pub grub delivered

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In the US there has been a suggestion that the coronavirus message on hygiene, SD, and masks has been getting through and/or accepted more in the English-speaking population than the non-(primarily) English-speaking (notably Spanish) speaking population.

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There was a direct train from New York to Montreal running daily... perhaps they received an influx of US visitors prior to lockdown of the border... https://www.newyorkcity.ca/taking-a-...l-to-new-york/
https://www.amtrak.com/adirondack-train

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Good shout...as good a reason as any.

It only took one person to increase NB's figures by 30%

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I believe Quebec also had their spring break earlier than many parts of Canada just before NY and other places went down the tubes, and saw a fair amount of young people travelling for spring break to places like Florida. I imagine college age students who travelled on spring break also brought back the virus.

By the time spring break for example happened in BC, things were better known, restrictions in place, and non-essential travel discouraged and the border restricted etc etc, so nobody really was able to travel for spring break.

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81 new cases over the weekend, 81 over a 3 day period.

A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.

BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.

Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)

Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.

Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.

During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897


Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.

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I'm sorry to hear that, but really not at all surprised.

It is clearly difficult to keep people's attention when the numbers are low and people think there is "no risk", so they refuse to take the pandemic seriously, drop their guard, (if it was ever in fact "up" :rolleyes: ) and, well, then all this happens. ^ :(

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Additional exposures linked to flights.

Aero Mexico 696 Mexico City to Vancouver on July 15 and 17

Air Canada 111 Toronto to Vancouver on July 13

Air Canada 8073 Vancouver to Victoria July 13

Air Canada 311 Montreal to Vancouver July 13

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For sure, the amount of times I have heard people say, oh we are not that bad, well low amount of cases can quickly become a big amount of cases if precautions are thrown out.

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Exactly. Case in point, the state of Victoria in Oz.

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Yes and i noticed that downtown was quieter on Saturday than i would have expected yet beaches everywhere this weekend were packed, today also. Lots of people out and about, lots of boats on the water, lots of out of province cars/campers, lots of people on patios and i'm sure the pubs and restaurants at night have been doing well considering the recent outbreak.
Yet look at the figures for Canada as a whole, 400 odd infections listed today, i'm assuming that a weekend count yet only 11 deaths, out of a country with 37 million people. We must be doing something right no?

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And they'll be incredibly well managed, just like those in Victoria, Australia, have been recently. :hysterical:

Oh wait, that's the source of the second wave there, sorry.

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To be clear, though, Victoria's failing was not from reducing restrictions too early. The VIC state government had gone harder and earlier into lockdown than most of the rest of Australia, and had copped some criticism for that. And when VIC started to lighten up on restrictions, their late-May, early-June new-case counts did actually seem to support that approach.

The VIC government's real failure was setting up the circumstances for a COVID-19 breakout from potentially-infected overseas returnees, inadequately policed by inadequately-trained and supervised contract security workers, within the quarantine hotels.

This same dynamic had occurred before within the "developed" world, e.g. it manifested in Singapore before it occurred in Victoria, Australia. "The government" rushes in to support the incomes of those who were previously in secure work (to be sure, for a good reason in that context, to maintain their consumer demand and avoid tanking that part of the economy) but then does nothing for those in "insecure" work, a.k.a. the "gig economy".

So the insecure workers keep working, regardless of their immediate health status. And they branch out into new insecure work opportunities, like security work at quarantine hotels. And they come home to households in high-rise public housing, and to family members who have equally insecure work in aged-care facilities.

And then the second wave starts happening, with everyone from the Victorian premier on down blaming those who live hand-to-mouth for going to work when they're sick.

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Yep, I know the circumstances in Victoria and I certainly don't blame anyone. Was just making the point that we can't afford to think we can drop our guard just because we've done ok up to now.

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What we need is a bunch of these specially trained COVID detector dogs at the arrival hall of all major intl airports.

Apparently they had a 94% detection rate, here is one of the little buggers in action

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.c...79-020-05281-3

These preliminary findings indicate that trained detection dogs can identify respiratory secretion samples from hospitalised and clinically diseased SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals by discriminating between samples from SARS-CoV-2 infected patients and negative controls. This data may form the basis for the reliable screening method of SARS-CoV-2 infected people.

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First time since March 17th there have been less than 10 people in hospital with COVID, 9 as of today's update.

23 more cases in the last 24 hours, 1 additional death.

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Just following loosely. So in BC, the cases are starting to rise, but the hospitalized are currently low. Is that the status?

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Pretty much. More recent cases seem to be a lot of 20-30 age group, so I assume that age group being healthier overall probably leading to less severe illness.

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Does this affect you? :sarcasm:

https://cfjctoday.com/2020/07/28/cov...na-strip-club/

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Ha ha exactly. Yet another obvious exposure place that quite frankly amazes me how it manages to stay open and within the guidelines.

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I am safe :lol:

I haven't been to a strip club in 20 years...

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BC plans to have K-12 go back to school in September with some changes.

• Most students from kindergarten to Grade 12 will return to school in the fall, divided into cohorts or "learning groups."
• Elementary and middle school learning groups will have a maximum of 60 students.
• Secondary school learning groups will have up to 120 students.
• Provincial government is putting up $45.6 million to help ensure safety measures.

Also increased cleaning, hand washing stations & availability of masks.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...plan-1.5666749

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Toronto moves to Stage 3 on Friday at 12.01am. Restaurants, theatres and business can open for business.

https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-to...iday-1.5043344

Masks have become mandatory in common areas of all condo buildings.

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41 new cases in BC in the last 24 hours, 6 more cases on Haida Gwaii, no additional deaths.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...aths-1.5668082

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Alberta seems a bit messy.

"304 cases of COVID-19 over the weekend, the number of active cases has risen to 1,430 and eight additional deaths of Albertans have been reported"

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Any idea of how many case are "serious"? :unsure:

UK 302,000 cases, 46,000 deaths ~ 15% case deaths
Canada 115,00 cases 8,900 deaths ~ 8% case deaths

Unscientific (as cases are hard to count) say about 1:10 ratio of death once 'cased'.
Would like to see a breakdown by age category.

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You can scroll down and there is deaths by age group for Canada.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...-cases.html#a7

Looks like

71% were 80 or older.
18% 70 to 79
7.1% 60 to 69
2.3% 50 to 59
0.6% 40 to 49
0.2 % 30 to 39
0.1% 20 to 29

1 death in the under 19 group.

The link also shows total deaths per age group 49 and under no group has over 49 with the 49 deaths being 40 to 49.

Makes sense as long term care homes were hit hard in Canada and mostly made up of older people.