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Paul_Shepherd Apr 8th 2020 3:32 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12835332)

Guffaw gaffaw....

maybe just a mild case..... as they say everything is good in moderation. ;)

Partially discharged Apr 8th 2020 4:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12835332)

I honestly don't think that conservatives hold the monopoly on being overly sensitive to people poking fun at them.

I saw the Beaverton article on the 'Doug' and it was well written.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/05...in-brockville/ this one makes me laugh as I'm in Ottawa and have been to the bright lights of Brockville and Smiths Falls many times.

Stinkypup Apr 8th 2020 7:29 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12834318)
He's a fat drunk in his mid-fifties. He smokes and is rumoured to have cocaine habit. Hardly a picture of health.

And this is exactly why my posts on here are as rare as rocking horse crap. You have stooped even below your previous level, that took quite some doing

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 8th 2020 7:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC has closed all provincial parks effective today.

dbd33 Apr 8th 2020 8:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12835556)
And this is exactly why my posts on here are as rare as rocking horse crap. You have stooped even below your previous level, that took quite some doing


I believe I have provided adequate evidence for the claims made. Do you suggest that Mr. Johnson is, in fact, a lithe, athletic man?

Jerseygirl Apr 8th 2020 8:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12835577)
I believe I have provided adequate evidence for the claims made. Do you suggest that Mr. Johnson is, in fact, a lithe, athletic man?

I think it’s more sticking the boot in when someone is seriously ill and could possibly die.

dbd33 Apr 8th 2020 8:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12835579)
I think it’s more sticking the boot in when someone is seriously ill and could possibly die.

The original claim was "I don't think he has any underlying health conditions and is not old, and now this....... pretty scary."

I suggested that Mr. Johnson has a great number of self-induced health conditions and so it'd wouldn't be particularly frightening if he were to die I surprised that anyone would take "fat drunk" to be putting the boot in when describing someone who's primary characteristics are being fat and drunk.

That he seems on the road to recovery is quite cheering for the rest of us unhealthy people, even if it is him.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 8th 2020 11:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
45 new cases in BC, 5 additional deaths taking the total to 48.
Number in hospital has dropped a bit to 135 with 61 in ICU.

Every traveller returning to B.C. from outside of Canada will now be required to present to federal and provincial officials a formal self isolation plan before being released from customs, those without a plan the province will prepare a quarantine site for them until they can come up with an alternative plan.

Camping ban in provincial parks has been extended until May 31st in addition to all provincial parks being closed until further notice.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...date-1.5526810

This article doesn't mention it, but there is some concern yesterday from local governments in BC about Alberta residents coming to BC to visit, apparently BC has been speaking to Alberta's government to encourage people not to travel to BC but who knows if people will listen.

City of Vancouver is asking province for $200 million in emergency funding, considering raising property taxes.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/04...gency-funding/

Air Canada is recalling the 16,000 employees they laid off last week. Looks like they qualify for the federal wage subsidy program, the workers won't actually be working as there is no work to be done. Air Canada wont be topping up the subsidized wages so employees wont be getting their full wage. The CEO and CFO will reduce their salary to $0.

https://www.thestar.com/business/202...0-workers.html

Bikeski Apr 9th 2020 12:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12835577)
I believe I have provided adequate evidence for the claims made. Do you suggest that Mr. Johnson is, in fact, a lithe, athletic man?

From what I can see you’ve actually provided zero evidence that he has any of the underlying health conditions relevant to covid-19 as listed in the UK government guidance (https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nerable-adults).

The only one close to what you posted is that he is overweight - however it is highly unlikely that he has a BMI of over 40.

Perhaps you are more interested in flamebait.....

BristolUK Apr 9th 2020 2:18 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
If anyone has received a payment from the Canadian government but considers they don't actually need compensating - eg not working and not lost any income and considers that they don't really need the payment - consider passing it on to a food bank or something similar who can make better use of it. :thumbup:

cheeky_monkey Apr 9th 2020 2:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12835960)
If anyone has received a payment from the Canadian government but considers they don't actually need compensating - eg not working and not lost any income and considers that they don't really need the payment - consider passing it on to a food bank or something similar who can make better use of it. :thumbup:

why would you apply for something you don't need?

BristolUK Apr 9th 2020 3:09 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 12835987)
why would you apply for something you don't need?

It's the payment that you do not apply for. It's based on the regular GST credits and just turns up. Hence the reference to having received it ;)

jimf Apr 9th 2020 3:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12835579)
I think it’s more sticking the boot in when someone is seriously ill and could possibly die.

A more thoughtful view on Boris Johnson's illness from the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...or-coronavirus

dbd33 Apr 9th 2020 3:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Bikeski (Post 12835925)
From what I can see you’ve actually provided zero evidence that he has any of the underlying health conditions relevant to covid-19 as listed in the UK government guidance (https://www.gov.uk/government/public...nerable-adults).

The only one close to what you posted is that he is overweight - however it is highly unlikely that he has a BMI of over 40.

Perhaps you are more interested in flamebait.....

From your link "a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy". Surely alcoholism counts as something that would weaken the immune system in the manner of chemotherapy. Obesity affects one's health on a scale, granted he's not the fattest person ever to move under their own steam but that sagging countenance suggests he's well on the way. I really didn't think this would be controversial, he's a picture of ill health and that does not bode well for adding a serious illness.

He's a shit, of course, and the UK would be the better had he not been born, but that's beside the point; the claim was "no underlying health conditions" - The very thought of pressing one's hand into the loose, pallid flesh of his face counters that notion. He's not like that nice Ms. Markle and her beau, they'd be a good bet to survive a bout of the CV.


macadian Apr 9th 2020 3:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
current political situation could be much much worse
Consider for a moment...if Commie Corbyn had become PM and became infected with COVID 19.......Dianne Abbott would be running the country.....:eek:

jimf Apr 9th 2020 3:32 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Anybody wearing a mask when they go out now? The advice to wear them seems quite weak. I may try to make the Guardian version later...

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...topic=tilelink

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...sk-coronavirus

Danny B Apr 9th 2020 3:38 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
No nonsense news, this is what people need to hear before they decide to 'go for a walk' this weekend. Trust me, everyone else will have the same idea as you and the trails will be packed.


Paul_Shepherd Apr 9th 2020 3:53 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12835585)
The original claim was "I don't think he has any underlying health conditions and is not old, and now this....... pretty scary."

I suggested that Mr. Johnson has a great number of self-induced health conditions and so it'd wouldn't be particularly frightening if he were to die I surprised that anyone would take "fat drunk" to be putting the boot in when describing someone who's primary characteristics are being fat and drunk.

That he seems on the road to recovery is quite cheering for the rest of us unhealthy people, even if it is him.

Yes that's what I said in my initial post, and I still believe it to be true.

Ok hes a bit overweight, and likes a few drinks, don't we all? I know quite a few people like that, including myself, although not carrying as much weight as Boris, (and I did lose a lot of weight and have kept it off), but I am still partial to a few drinks, I don't think I would consider myself to have underlying health issues for Covid-19 to attack me in a severe way like it has with Boris.

It seems to affect everybody in a different way, not necessarily based on heath and age. That's the scary part. You just seem to have a personal dislike for Boris, which you are entitled to, but I don't think your argument of his lifestyle has any bearing on his Covid-19 related condition.

Paul_Shepherd Apr 9th 2020 3:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12836002)
current political situation could be much much worse
Consider for a moment...if Commie Corbyn had become PM and became infected with COVID 19.......Dianne Abbott would be running the country.....:eek:

That doesn't even bear thinking about!!

dbd33 Apr 9th 2020 4:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12836021)
. You just seem to have a personal dislike for Boris,

Oh, I should think he'd be quite fun in a pub, in a patronising "pater will pay" kind of way. I wouldn't want to have a child by him, I wouldn't believe anything he says and I don't think he should hold any sort of office but I wouldn't say I dislike him.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 9th 2020 8:56 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Jobless rate pushed up to 7.8% with more than 1 million jobs lots, economists had estimated job loss at 500,000.

BC lost more than 132,000 jobs in just one week.

BC unemployment rate rose to 7.2%

Guess some jobs might return while companies are getting wage subsidy, but once that ends, doubt companies will keep everyone, Air Canada for instance, only reason they are putting 16,000 back on payroll is because of the wage subsidy, if not for that they would not be bringing the employees back to payroll, the employees are not actually working though since there is no work to be done.

But considering BC lost 132,000 in just 1 week in March, should wake up those who keep screaming the government should not be going into debt with these programs and that there are plenty of jobs, which clearly isn't true.


MillieF Apr 9th 2020 9:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
[QUOTE=Danny B;12836010]No nonsense news, this is what people need to hear before they decide to 'go for a walk' this weekend. Trust me, everyone else will have the same idea as you and the trails will be packed.
[/QUOTE

Bloody brilliant and starkly terrifying Danny B...thank you...I wouldn’t have seen it.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 9th 2020 9:57 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC is going to spend $5 million to boost some virtual mental health resources. And the government actually said they recognize that for too long mental health and addiction supports have relied on how much money you had in your bank account, maybe this virus will lead to long term changes.

""We fully recognize that, too much through our history, access to mental health care or addiction support has depended on the size of your bank account. "

The prime ministers comments today does not bring optimism things will return to normal anytime soon.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...h-bc-1.5527661




Oink Apr 9th 2020 10:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d2d58c00a.jpeg
Once again, its one rule for us and another for them. While you’re partying your faces off the rest of us are staying home saving lives.

Oink Apr 9th 2020 10:29 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Oink Apr 9th 2020 10:37 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...92b453c19.jpeg
A paragon of virus fighting health.

dave_j Apr 9th 2020 10:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12836010)
No nonsense news, this is what people need to hear before they decide to 'go for a walk' this weekend. Trust me, everyone else will have the same idea as you and the trails will be packed.

Thank for posting this. It's not often that a news anchor poses such difficult questions. Yes we see some soft reporting but to see it as stark fact in rare.
I'm tempted to wonder what, if any, new policies will erupt from such statements.
After WW1 we had a cry 'Homes fit for Heroes' and as usual the reality fell short of the rhetoric but after WW2 we had the NHS and a Labour government pushed it through to become a beacon of equality.
This pandemic comes at a time when inequalities have never been more stark or more prominant and as usual it's those who have least who suffer most.
Will we, I wonder, witness any real attempt to stamp on the increasingly unacceptable face of greed at the heart of corporate institutions or will we continue to witness the curruption at the heart of our governments that continues to stoke social unrest?
This virus will inject an opportunity directly into the heart of government, will it grow or will the natural defences based on greed quietly put it to rest?

caretaker Apr 9th 2020 11:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12836257)
This virus will inject an opportunity directly into the heart of government, will it grow or will the natural defences based on greed quietly put it to rest?

Another man the calibre of Tommy Douglas wouldn't hurt.

Oink Apr 9th 2020 11:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Let's put this to bad. Boris Johnson is a cad and who ever voted for the Conservative party with him as its leader are cads.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 9th 2020 11:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hospitalizations are down a bit in BC and number in ICU dropped a fair amount, and with only 2 new deaths, seems most of the hospital drop has been people recovering and not dying.

34 new cases though.

858 have recovered of the 1,300 something cases in total.

BC Gov't once again telling people do not travel this weekend within the province and asking Alberta residents not to come.





dave_j Apr 10th 2020 1:40 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12836268)
Another man the calibre of Tommy Douglas wouldn't hurt.

I'm ashamed to say that I'd never heard of him, but a quick search online found this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas, and I agree the hour bringeth the man.
He'd not stay long in today's parliamentary society, his early support of eugenics would follow him on every media outlet and he'd never live it down, he'd become the story not his policies.
That being said he appears to have had the right ideas, apart from being religeous of course.


dbd33 Apr 10th 2020 2:09 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12836319)
I'm ashamed to say that I'd never heard of him.


How did you pass the citizenship exam?

dave_j Apr 10th 2020 2:32 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12836330)
How did you pass the citizenship exam?

Too old to take it.

dbd33 Apr 10th 2020 3:04 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12836333)
Too old to take it.


Ah. I memorised, Guy Lombardo, Tommy Douglas, Hank Snow, Jackie Shane. I suppose now one would add Alex Trebek.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 10th 2020 3:33 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Renters supplement eligibility is for anyone in BC who might qualify, it's available for April, May, June.

Receiving or eligible for Employment Insurance, the Canada Emergency Response Benefit, or experiencing a 25% reduction in monthly employment income as a result of COVID-19

Have a 2019 household income of less than $74,150 for singles or couples with no dependents and $113,040 for households with dependents

Paying more than 30% of current/reduced gross monthly income towards rent

Not receiving any other rent subsidy from any level of government, including subsidized housing or rent supplements, such as Shelter Aid for Elderly Renters (SAFER) or the Rental Assistance Program (RAP)

Up to $300 if no dependents, and up to $500 with dependents.

Money will be paid directly to landlords for those approved.

Partially discharged Apr 10th 2020 4:27 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12836002)
current political situation could be much much worse
Consider for a moment...if Commie Corbyn had become PM and became infected with COVID 19.......Dianne Abbott would be running the country.....:eek:

Hmm..not a pleasant thought.

I guess this lovely specimen doesn't think much of Boris. ah the beauty of facebook where everything is permanent

https://westleedsdispatch.com/bramle...y-stunt-claim/








dbd33 Apr 10th 2020 1:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12836367)
Hmm..not a pleasant thought.

I guess this lovely specimen doesn't think much of Boris. ah the beauty of facebook where everything is permanent

https://westleedsdispatch.com/bramle...y-stunt-claim/

I think most people were initially skeptical that Johnson actually had the disease, many still are. Perhaps we'd believe it if it was written on a bus.

MillieF Apr 10th 2020 4:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12836491)
I think most people were initially skeptical that Johnson actually had the disease, many still are. Perhaps we'd believe it if it was written on a bus.


I must quietly admit that I did think that they might be pulling our leg...I kept my mould shut as I’m a Canadian now and they are meant to always be nice...

I didn’t think it for an instant with Prince Charles.

Surely it’s because history has taught us to have an inherent disbelief in all politicians, of every hue? Wouldn’t it be nice if we ever heard one say anything that we might actually believe...

dbd33 Apr 10th 2020 4:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 12836572)
I must quietly admit that I did think that they might be pulling our leg...I kept my mould shut as I’m a Canadian now and they are meant to always be nice...

I didn’t think it for an instant with Prince Charles.

Surely it’s because history has taught us to have an inherent disbelief in all politicians, of every hue? Wouldn’t it be nice if we ever heard one say anything that we might actually believe...

Jacinda Ardern, Her border closure press conference was very impressive.

Rete Apr 10th 2020 4:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12836242)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d2d58c00a.jpeg
Once again, its one rule for us and another for them. While you’re partying your faces off the rest of us are staying home saving lives.


WOW! That's a lot of cops partying.


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