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dave_j Feb 3rd 2020 5:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12800842)
If the Chinese government is covering any cases of the virus up, it could be in the detention camps where a million Uighur people have been kept for political and religious re-education.

It's of course possible that isolation camps such as that described, and of course prisons, will be some of the safer places to be. I wonder at what stage the Uighurs and prisoners will pull up the drawbridge and restrict entry into camps prisons by those charged with the task of preventing escape... or... will they themselves volunteer to be on the inside?

caretaker Feb 3rd 2020 6:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12800944)
It's of course possible that isolation camps such as that described, and of course prisons, will be some of the safer places to be. I wonder at what stage the Uighurs and prisoners will pull up the drawbridge and restrict entry into camps prisons by those charged with the task of preventing escape... or... will they themselves volunteer to be on the inside?

From the documentary I saw they don't have any choices in anything, and since they're underfed and generally not healthy they're probably more susceptible to the virus than the general public.

dave_j Feb 3rd 2020 6:43 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12800979)
From the documentary I saw they don't have any choices in anything, and since they're underfed and generally not healthy they're probably more susceptible to the virus than the general public.

My post was intended to be very slightly tongue in cheek, but for the inmates to be susceptible to the virus the vurus must first enter the institution... best keep it out.

caretaker Feb 3rd 2020 7:00 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12800994)
best keep it out.

The best way to do that would be to stop rounding them up wholesale off the street and locking them up then.

tumbleweedly Feb 4th 2020 1:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The World Health Organization WHO published a mythbusters on the 2019 nCov.
I found it very healpful:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...c/myth-busters

Oakvillian Feb 4th 2020 2:09 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
And, amongst all the genuine (if perhaps slightly overblown) concern about people who actually have the coronavirus infection, there's one idiot who thought it would be amusing to say he had it, while on a Westjet flight to Jamaica yesterday. Of course, the plane's crew had no option but to follow protocol for an infectious disease on board, and turned the plane round for Toronto. The passenger was met by Peel regional police and charged with mischief. I hope he is dinged for at least some of the cost of his folly.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...lane-1.5450824

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 5th 2020 12:35 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC has 2nd confirmed case, a woman in her 50's. Isolated at home with some family members.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6506297/b...ner_persistant




Danny B Feb 5th 2020 3:36 am

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scrubbedexpat091 Feb 5th 2020 4:44 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Looks like Canada might be managing to get a fight in bring Canadian's home. Hard to fully figure-out why Canada seems to be having a more difficult and complicated time in doing so compared to the US and other countries.


sharkus Feb 5th 2020 11:50 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 12801414)
And, amongst all the genuine (if perhaps slightly overblown) concern about people who actually have the coronavirus infection, there's one idiot who thought it would be amusing to say he had it, while on a Westjet flight to Jamaica yesterday. Of course, the plane's crew had no option but to follow protocol for an infectious disease on board, and turned the plane round for Toronto. The passenger was met by Peel regional police and charged with mischief. I hope he is dinged for at least some of the cost of his folly.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...lane-1.5450824

I was looking to see if this had been mentioned here. What a complete and utter pillock. Some wannabe musician who did it purely to get publicity, and wanted to go viral (I'd say he was making a pun, but suspect he wouldn't know one if it came and smacked him in the face). It's one of the most stupid things you could do.


scrubbedexpat091 Feb 5th 2020 8:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I do find it interesting how long its taking Canada to arrange flights out for Canadian citizens, must be frustrating for Canadian's in Wuhan seeing other countries evacuating citizens more quickly. US did 1 flight last week, 2 flights arrived from Wuhan early this morning, with 2 more planned Thursday.

Australia has done 2 flights so far for its citizens.

Virus might be more contagious than current data shows, virus also appears to have mutated so it can more easily spread among humans.

This virus has caused the CDC in the US to do things it hasn't done in 50 years, which is a little more concerning, do the scientists know something they haven't shared yet?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/rese...ata-shows.html





scrubbedexpat091 Feb 6th 2020 5:52 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
US has offered to assist Canada in getting Canadian's out of Wuhan.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...th-evacuation/


dave_j Feb 6th 2020 5:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I do wonder why, when we stuff the governmental bottomless tax coffers with our hard earned that the defence juggernaut uses to buy their expensive toys, that they apparently need to charter aircraft to transport wayward canadians, and others, who need help to leave China.
How do we transport troops when we send them to bugger up other people's countries?
Do we charter aircraft for that?
It's clear to me that we obviously don't pay enough taxes, it's clear that we need to pay much much more, and we can use it to fund an airline just in case. We could call it Air Canada, has a nice ring to it, don't you think.
It's a mystry.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 6th 2020 8:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12802880)
I do wonder why, when we stuff the governmental bottomless tax coffers with our hard earned that the defence juggernaut uses to buy their expensive toys, that they apparently need to charter aircraft to transport wayward canadians, and others, who need help to leave China.
How do we transport troops when we send them to bugger up other people's countries?
Do we charter aircraft for that?
It's clear to me that we obviously don't pay enough taxes, it's clear that we need to pay much much more, and we can use it to fund an airline just in case. We could call it Air Canada, has a nice ring to it, don't you think.
It's a mystry.

The US spends huge sums of money on military and related and has huge fleets of military aircraft but still chartered civilian aircraft to do their evacuation from China, although they didn't charter comfortable passenger planes, they chartered purpose built 747 cargo aircraft and slapped in passenger seats, but they still chartered civilian aircraft and the US often uses civilian aircraft to move troops and supplies, so no surprise there a small country will smaller military capability has to charter as well.

Does surprise me a bit how long its taken Canada to arrange just 1 flight and needs to rely on the US still to bring Canadian's home. Also surprising Canada isn't using a Canadian airline to do so.

The Canadian flight is in the air finally, due to arrive in Vancouver around 8:50pm, aircraft is Hi Fly A330 9H-STY and will continue onto Trenton.

Last I saw there should be a US flight at some point also arriving in Vancouver a few hours later to drop off Canadian's before going onto the US and those Canadian's will be put on a government aircraft and flown to Trenton.

https://www.flightradar24.com/HFM322/23c7656d

















scrubbedexpat091 Feb 6th 2020 11:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
2 more cases in BC, related to the previously announced one earlier in this week. A man and woman in their 30's.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...date-1.5455063

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 7th 2020 2:04 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
US rescue flight with Canadian's on it is on the way to Vancouver, currently flying over Japan due into Vancouver at 3am, once the Canadian's are off the plane will continue to the US.

Kalitta Air 747 aircraft 706CK flying at 27,000 feet the Kalitta flights have been staying relatively low altitude.


Zoe Bell Feb 7th 2020 2:17 pm

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another day, another useless webinar.
monotony was broken up by the person whose camera feed kept showing up at random, the person whose camera only showed the top right quarter of their face and the woman with scary scary lips.

Zoe Bell Feb 10th 2020 8:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
another info session from Canadian government , same shit but also in French

caretaker Feb 10th 2020 9:00 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 12804784)
another info session from Canadian government , same shit but also in French

Merde.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 10th 2020 10:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
10 cases in Europe linked to 1 man who went to a conference in Singapore, although he never went to China, some at the conference were from Wuhan region.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6532857/b...biR0k6qi9iXcCI





Danny B Feb 10th 2020 11:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Canada should take note.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...antine-action/

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 11th 2020 7:57 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
24 day incubation period?

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...box=1581382953

Siouxie Feb 11th 2020 5:48 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
They should cancel the conferences... or at least advise delegates flying in from China / Far East not to attend.

caretaker Feb 11th 2020 6:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12804941)

I suppose this could mean those going through a 14 day quarantine will need extra scrutiny for a couple of weeks when they're done.

dave_j Feb 12th 2020 7:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Visited the docs today and for the first time ever was asked whether I'd had a flu jab.
Now the cynic in me thought 'he's adding to the business profit' but the pragmatic side of me thought 'wonder if the word has gone out to do most to resist coronavirus'.
It's a mystry.

tumbleweedly Feb 12th 2020 11:36 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
WHO announced the new name for th virus:

Covid-19

tumbleweedly Feb 12th 2020 11:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12805401)
Visited the docs today and for the first time ever was asked whether I'd had a flu jab.
Now the cynic in me thought 'he's adding to the business profit' but the pragmatic side of me thought 'wonder if the word has gone out to do most to resist coronavirus'.
It's a mystry.

Speaking of vacinating, vacine for coronavirus SARS hasn't even been created and they have been working on it for many years.

So, how are they going to get Covid19 in just 20 months?

bats Feb 12th 2020 4:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Did those of you twitching about this get your flu shots this year? What about Pneumovax and Prevnar if you're older?

spouse of scouse Feb 12th 2020 4:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12805707)
Did those of you twitching about this get your flu shots this year? What about Pneumovax and Prevnar if you're older?

I'm unconcerned about the coronavirus, but I'm getting my flu shot in April as I do every year :)

Edit - I'm unconcerned on a personal level I mean, not for all the poor souls who have died from it.

BristolUK Feb 12th 2020 5:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12805707)
Did those of you twitching about this get your flu shots this year? What about Pneumovax and Prevnar if you're older?

Flu shot every year since 2007 and last year I had my 5 yearly Pneumo shot.

Do I get a special treat? :lol:

Jerseygirl Feb 12th 2020 5:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12805728)
Flu shot every year since 2007 and last year I had my 5 yearly Pneumo shot.

Do I get a special treat? :lol:

after having my first real bout of flu in 2003, I have had the flu shot annually. I had my first pneumonia shot in 2014, had the new improved shot 2 years ago. I thought the shots were every 10 years. :unsure: 3 years ago I had pneumonia twice in 12 months, but the type I had was not covered by the shot.


spouse of scouse Feb 12th 2020 6:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12805728)
Flu shot every year since 2007 and last year I had my 5 yearly Pneumo shot.

Do I get a special treat? :lol:

Only if I get one too. As well as the annual flu shot, in the past 5 years I've had shots for cholera, typhoid, Tdap (tetanus diphtheria and pertussis), Hep A B C D E I dunno, and have just had a blood test to see if my immunity to measles is up to scratch.

And if a dog bites me in Turkey I have to go straight to a hospital and get the first of a course of rabies injections plus take something or another. My doctor is very thorough :unsure:

spouse of scouse Feb 12th 2020 6:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12805731)
after having my first real bout of flu in 2003, I have had the flu shot annually. I had my first pneumonia shot in 2014, had the new improved shot 2 years ago. I thought the shots were every 10 years. :unsure: 3 years ago I had pneumonia twice in 12 months, but the type I had was not covered by the shot.

That's the problem with influenza isn't it, new strains evolve (mutate?) all the time. I'm just out of quarrantine for influenza A, got it looking after my sister when she had it. She was really sick (had missed her flu shot last year) but I wasn't too bad.

caretaker Feb 12th 2020 6:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
WHO live update:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=...r&_gsc=uDspcRc

Danny B Feb 12th 2020 6:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I have had just about every vaccine known to man at one time in my life. Everything from rabies, Japanese encephalitis to the more recent Twinrix. BUT I have never ever had a flu shot and I can only recall ever having the flu once in my life.

tumbleweedly Feb 12th 2020 6:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I had the flu jab in November. I read on the WHO site that no pneumonia vacinations will help with the Covid-19. :(
I will get it next fall with next years flu vac anyway. Better safe than sorry!

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 12th 2020 6:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I get the flu shot some years, all depends if I can find the covered ones, some years they go so quickly I don't get a chance. Never had a pneumonia vaccine or ever had a doctor recommend getting one so probably not in the risk/age group for it. I had the usual childhood vaccines and the Hep vaccine back in high school, been tested for immunity recently for the Hep and still have good immunity so didn't need a booster, I had very bad chicken pox as a child (no vaccine back then) so no point in getting the vaccine now, not 50 yet so shingles vaccine isn't on the horizon yet, but probably about due for a tetanus booster, its been close to 10 years since the last one.


bats Feb 13th 2020 1:21 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12805728)
Flu shot every year since 2007 and last year I had my 5 yearly Pneumo shot.

Do I get a special treat? :lol:

5 yearly? Isn't it once only ?

BristolUK Feb 13th 2020 2:21 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12805882)
5 yearly? Isn't it once only ?

Recommended every 5 years if an underlying chronic condition apparently.

Jerseygirl Feb 13th 2020 2:58 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12805892)
Recommended every 5 years if an underlying chronic condition apparently.

not if the person was 65 or older when they received the first vaccine...or so I’ve read. I have a lung problem which makes me more susceptible to pneumonia...I will check with my pulmonary specialist about this.


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