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Old Feb 4th 2021, 3:03 pm
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A bit, but so is vaccine producers delaying delivery of what we've already contracted for. The roll out vaccination plans put in place with refrigerated transportation and tiered access depend on getting what we bought.
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Old Feb 4th 2021, 3:17 pm
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Begs the question why Canada has contracted for 10 shots per person.
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However...

Other wealthier countries, including New Zealand and Singapore, have requested an early allocation as well.

Most of the first doses available, though, will be delivered to low- and middle-income countries.
Canada contributed $440m (£324m) to Covax in September, half of which secured doses for itself from about nine vaccines candidates.

The other half goes into a pooled fund to buy doses for 20% of the people in 92 low- and middle-income countries.
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Old Feb 4th 2021, 4:10 pm
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That's my understanding too, first does are used nationally, and then over-supply (or options) is sold/provided to other countries.
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Old Feb 4th 2021, 4:20 pm
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Begs the question why Canada has contracted for 10 shots per person.
Government is panic buying the vaccine. Similar to the general public being selfish last Spring by buying up all available bog roll and lysol wipes to store in their basement 'just in case'.

That's my theory anyway.
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Old Feb 4th 2021, 4:46 pm
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NZ & Singapore have had a combined total of 55 COVID deaths since the pandemic began. They seem to have the virus under control and can probably afford to wait a few more months for their vaccines to arrive. Makes no sense for them to take stock from Mexico, India or Brazil.



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Old Feb 4th 2021, 11:03 pm
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Other wealthier countries, including New Zealand and Singapore, have requested an early allocation as well.

Most of the first doses available, though, will be delivered to low- and middle-income countries.
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Canada contributed $440m (£324m) to Covax in September, half of which secured doses for itself from about nine vaccines candidates.

The other half goes into a pooled fund to buy doses for 20% of the people in 92 low- and middle-income countries.
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Other wealthier countries, including New Zealand and Singapore, have requested an early allocation as well.

Most of the first doses available, though, will be delivered to low- and middle-income countries.
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Canada contributed $440m (£324m) to Covax in September, half of which secured doses for itself from about nine vaccines candidates.

The other half goes into a pooled fund to buy doses for 20% of the people in 92 low- and middle-income countries.
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Other wealthier countries, including New Zealand and Singapore, have requested an early allocation as well.

Most of the first doses available, though, will be delivered to low- and middle-income countries.
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Canada contributed $440m (£324m) to Covax in September, half of which secured doses for itself from about nine vaccines candidates.

The other half goes into a pooled fund to buy doses for 20% of the people in 92 low- and middle-income countries.
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Australia and the UK have also paid the extra amount to receive doses but have not yet taken up the option.

So, Canada is not alone ......... you can call all those countries "despicable", except they have all paid more into the fund to supply middle- and low-income countries.
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Old Feb 4th 2021, 11:13 pm
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Canada is #33 in world for vaccine administered per capita and still sliding down the list.

Ontario has only administered approx 330K doses...population 15 million.
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Canada is #33 in world for vaccine administered per capita and still sliding down the list..
Can't vaccinate people when the delivery of supplies gets postponed.

The time to worry is when Canada's place in the vaccine 'league table' is lower than the positions for positive tests and death rates which last time I looked were about 80th and 50th.
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Old Feb 5th 2021, 3:52 pm
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Australia and the UK have also paid the extra amount to receive doses but have not yet taken up the option.

So, Canada is not alone ......... you can call all those countries "despicable", except they have all paid more into the fund to supply middle- and low-income countries.
UMmm you have got the wrong end of the stick and quoting me out of context.. - I wasn't the one calling those countries despicable -
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I thought I read that the UK will not be taking up its allocation, they were saying that over 50's will all be vaccinated by May in the UK.
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Old Feb 6th 2021, 2:29 am
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UMmm you have got the wrong end of the stick and quoting me out of context.. - I wasn't the one calling those countries despicable -
oops ..........

I got that wrong. I didn't mean to say you were calling the countries alsodespicable!!

I got all tangled up intrying to ge tthe correct quotes in place.

Mea culpa!
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Old Feb 6th 2021, 2:54 am
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A year ago a lot of people in Canada weren't convinced we were really in trouble. Time flies.
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NZ & Singapore have had a combined total of 55 COVID deaths since the pandemic began. They seem to have the virus under control and can probably afford to wait a few more months for their vaccines to arrive. Makes no sense for them to take stock from Mexico, India or Brazil.
OK. So NZ is buying vaccine for South Pacific island nations not just for itself. Maori and Pasifika are considered to be at higher risk in this.

[There are currently no licensed COVID-19 vaccines available in New Zealand although a lot of work is going on to procure safe and effective vaccines. As of December 2020, the New Zealand Government has Advanced Purchasing Agreements (APA) with Pfizer/BioNTech, Janssen, AstraZeneca/Oxford and Novavax. This means there is an arrangement to buy a preplanned number of doses of vaccines from these companies if their vaccines are proven to be safe and effective. Also, as part of a global collaboration called COVAX, New Zealand will have access to additional vaccines.
NZers themselves will not start to have access to any vaccine until the 2nd part of this year. First allocation will be as per
To begin with, we will focus on vaccinating border workers, people working in managed isolation and quarantine facilities, and their close contacts. This is because they are most at risk of getting COVID-19. We are aiming to offer vaccines to this group in the second quarter of 2021 (April, May and June).
I'm a pensioner now. I am not expecting to receive any vaccine for a good 6 months if not more. Husband would be at risk, it is the same for him. So NZ is not getting ahead of the vaccine game via Covax. Not one person in NZ or the pacific is yet vaccinated and won't be for several months.
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Old Feb 7th 2021, 12:48 pm
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I thought I read that the UK will not be taking up its allocation, they were saying that over 50's will all be vaccinated by May in the UK.
That's just the first dose. Below 50s need to be vaccinated too.
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