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Old Jan 14th 2021, 12:46 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Is it not just a store - usually big ones - that sells stuff in big boxes?
Appliances, lawn mowers, flatpack furniture, computers, DIY stuff and larger DIY tools etc
It's also stores like Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Super Store, Canadin Tire, Lowes, most grocery chains, etc,

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Old Jan 14th 2021, 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Some doctors who don't think rules apply to them jumping the que in Vancouver.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ueue-1.5872213
can’t believe anyone would think any frontline medical/nursing/Pam/ambulance staff don’t deserve and need a place right at the front of the queue.
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can’t believe anyone would think any frontline medical/nursing/Pam/ambulance staff don’t deserve and need a place right at the front of the queue.
Reading the news item, apparently they queue jumped to receive the 2nd dose, not the first - and that is what has got the ministry up in arms.

"Through the system, it has come to our attention that there have been instances in which physicians have attended our clinics and received the second dose of vaccine before they were invited or permitted to do so. These instances will be investigated and may result in disciplinary action."

The memo says that at the direction of the provincial health officer and the Health Ministry, first doses are being offered only to high-priority health-care workers and vulnerable people and that a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine will be administered at about 35 days.
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Old Jan 14th 2021, 3:01 am
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I tracked down the legal document detailing what you are permitted to do during the 'stay at home order' Ontario, for anyone who might be interested. (opens in new tab - no download should be necessary)
https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021...
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Originally Posted by Siouxie
I tracked down the legal document detailing what you are permitted to do during the 'stay at home order' Ontario, for anyone who might be interested. (opens in new tab - no download should be necessary)
https://files.ontario.ca/solgen-stay-at-home-order-2021...
Seems like a lot of vague, fishy exceptions/loopholes there. I really wish they would've done something stricter (that would guaranteed accomplish something), or just done nothing at all.
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Hopefully some more doses arrive in BC, we are running low with 89% of the received doses having been administered as of today's update.


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Old Jan 14th 2021, 7:38 am
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I always thought 'big box stores' were called that because they looked like a big ugly box in the parking lot... no architectural or aesthetic consideration whatsoever, just a functional temple to consumerism.
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Old Jan 14th 2021, 6:04 pm
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By the end of the week, nearly all long term care residents and staff in Vancouver Coastal Health will have received their first dose of vaccine.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/01...id-19-vaccine/
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Reading the news item, apparently they queue jumped to receive the 2nd dose, not the first - and that is what has got the ministry up in arms.
Over here on Jeremy Vine today they were discussing the 2nd shots question. Apparently the Phizer vaccine gives you 90% immunity with the 1st dose and only an extra 5% with the 2nd shot. A doctor was arguing that all NHS staff should have both shots within 3 weeks recommended by Phizer and not have to wait the 12 weeks as HM Gov now want. The Gov say they want to get the 1st shot and therefore the 90% immunity into as many people as possible before starting the 2nd doses which kind makes a lot of sense to me looking at it in terms of bang for your buck.
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BC seeking legal advice to see if they can restrict travel to BC from elsewhere in Canada.

British Columbia’s premier says his government is seeking legal advice on whether it can limit non-essential travel from people out of province during the pandemic.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...travel-horgan/
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BC seeking legal advice to see if they can restrict travel to BC from elsewhere in Canada.

British Columbia’s premier says his government is seeking legal advice on whether it can limit non-essential travel from people out of province during the pandemic.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...travel-horgan/
They want to build a wall?
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They want to build a wall?
Probably not a wall, I imagine if its permitted it will be restrictions on flights and putting RCMP on the highways bordering Alberta. But then how does one prove their travel is essential and what is considered essential? The whole essential thing is confusing as there are too many definitions on what is and isn't essential.
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Probably not a wall, I imagine if its permitted it will be restrictions on flights and putting RCMP on the highways bordering Alberta. But then how does one prove their travel is essential and what is considered essential? The whole essential thing is confusing as there are too many definitions on what is and isn't essential.
Well New York allows essential workers and all you need to do is say you are an essential worker. There are all sorts of definitions of what constitutes an essential worker. That is for travel by air, friends stayed in Manhattan a couple of weeks ago and no restrictions by road.

I guess such restrictions may put off a few, not quite what impact it has is another matter.

Probably needs to be Internal Passports to make this work.
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Old Jan 14th 2021, 9:21 pm
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It's also stores like Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Super Store, Canadin Tire, Lowes, most grocery chains, etc,
Yeah, that's what I mean. They also sell stuff in big boxes. TVs, saucepan sets, bathroom stuff...
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Over here on Jeremy Vine today they were discussing the 2nd shots question. Apparently the Phizer vaccine gives you 90% immunity with the 1st dose and only an extra 5% with the 2nd shot. A doctor was arguing that all NHS staff should have both shots within 3 weeks recommended by Phizer and not have to wait the 12 weeks as HM Gov now want. The Gov say they want to get the 1st shot and therefore the 90% immunity into as many people as possible before starting the 2nd doses which kind makes a lot of sense to me looking at it in terms of bang for your buck.
That was essentially the same case made in Quebec except the figures I heard were 92% and then 95% with the second.
If it's all true, and the first dose doesn't 'wear off' before the second one saves it, it hardly seems worth the second one.
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